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6ix9ineYearFlow 03-18-2020 02:13 AM
Section 16
 
I’d recommend the pilot group starts familiarizing themselves with Section 16 of the contract. While I appreciate the optimistic sentiment many of the young kids have here that “this will only last a couple months,” airlines are talking about recovery in terms of years, not months.

brnnrubr 03-18-2020 05:53 AM
How far up the list do you think they’ll go?

Cyio 03-18-2020 06:17 AM
Originally Posted by 6ix9ineYearFlow (Post 3002271)
I’d recommend the pilot group starts familiarizing themselves with Section 16 of the contract. While I appreciate the optimistic sentiment many of the young kids have here that “this will only last a couple months,” airlines are talking about recovery in terms of years, not months.
If this happens, it will be deemed an "Act of God" and the company basically **** cans you, with virtually no cost to them other than seniority.

But seriously 03-18-2020 06:18 AM
Originally Posted by brnnrubr (Post 3002365)
How far up the list do you think they’ll go?
AA hasn’t even gotten around to reducing our flying yet (emphasis on “yet”). Way too early to guess how many they’ll furlough.

Cyio 03-18-2020 06:23 AM
Originally Posted by brnnrubr (Post 3002365)
How far up the list do you think they’ll go?
Historically, I believe the number typically falls in the 10-20% range.

pitchattitude 03-18-2020 08:15 AM
Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 3002401)
Historically, I believe the number typically falls in the 10-20% range.
This is like nothing in history...

At least in the history of the aviation industry.

Now if we go back to medieval times and the plague, now we have some history.

But seriously 03-18-2020 09:05 AM
Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 3002541)
This is like nothing in history...

At least in the history of the aviation industry.

Now if we go back to medieval times and the plague, now we have some history.
How high did the furloughs go then?
Sorry, couldn’t resist.

UncreativeUser 03-18-2020 09:32 AM
Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 3002541)
This is like nothing in history...

At least in the history of the aviation industry.

Now if we go back to medieval times and the plague, now we have some history.

I really hope your not comparing this to the Black Plague lol


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pitchattitude 03-18-2020 09:53 AM
Read some of the articles in today’s ALPA Daily. It is not good.

RawHide 03-18-2020 10:05 AM
Please read letter 13-02


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