Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 3100141)

I think what is likely to happen is the cost of the ATP-CTP and the written, which is down to about $5K, will be back on the pilot. The ride can still be done with the type in initial training with the airline. There was a time when that’s what you needed, the ATP written. It’s just that now to take the written, you have to have the CTP completed. Also before the “CTP mills” fired up it was $20K, not $5K.

You go back far enough, before the 1500 hour rule, there were outfits that you actually paid to fly with to build your time. Mostly multi.

It’s all a function of supply and demand. Currently there is little to no demand, when the demand does pick up, there will be a large supply of pilots.

Originally Posted by jake cutter (Post 3100213)

Mesa is hiring?

Originally Posted by LoneStar32 (Post 3100224)

No, but they have an applicant pool. Unless you have your ATP, you ain't in it,

Originally Posted by FullThrust (Post 3100277)

I wouldn't be surprised if the university programs started graduating people from the pilot program with their ATP in the near future for this reason. Airlines would love it b/c they don't have to pay for it, and universities love it because it makes going to an overpriced 4 year aviation program only slightly less worthless and thus, more attractive for recruiting.

Originally Posted by FullThrust (Post 3100277)

and universities love it because it makes going to an overpriced 4 year aviation program only slightly less worthless and thus, more attractive for recruiting.

Originally Posted by pangolin (Post 3100181)

Mesa is requiring a full ATP with landing and instrument currency at this point.