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UnprotectdPilot 08-31-2020 03:58 AM

PSA Announces 35% of Pilots Furloughed Oct. 1
 
DAMAGE REPORT:

PSA has announced 1,141 furloughs.
- 723 pilots (35% of the seniority list)
- 418 Flight Attendants

An additional 45 Engineering/Maintenance positions will be eliminated and outsourced.

While Envoy & Piedmont are presently furloughing a fewer % of their pilots, this is only
the beginning and there is no safe harbor at the wholly-owneds. Expect MGMT to come for personnel and/or pay. This is only the beginning so long as there is no government intervention or passenger demand begins to significantly and reliably trend toward the passenger counts of recent years past. Good luck out there.

But seriously 08-31-2020 04:29 AM


Originally Posted by UnprotectdPilot (Post 3119635)
DAMAGE REPORT:

PSA has announced 1,141 furloughs.
- 723 pilots (35% of the seniority list)
- 418 Flight Attendants

An additional 45 Engineering/Maintenance positions will be eliminated and outsourced.

While Envoy & Piedmont are presently furloughing a fewer % of their pilots, this is only
the beginning and there is no safe harbor at the wholly-owneds. Expect MGMT to come for personnel and/or pay. This is only the beginning so long as there is no government intervention or passenger demand begins to significantly and reliably trend toward the passenger counts of recent years past. Good luck out there.

I’d expect a furlough announcement today from ENY too. If they plan to furlough on Oct 1 and they need to give 30 days notice...

FUPMEagle 08-31-2020 05:34 AM

From what I understand they stood firm on no concessions. So kudos to them, no sarcasm. I just hope we can do the same here and stand together for once. No more whipsawing and we take their power away.

dk104444 08-31-2020 06:34 AM

According to scope, AA lost 30% from international flights. ALL WO are suppose to shrink 30% also

GroundPointNine 08-31-2020 07:01 AM


Originally Posted by But seriously (Post 3119641)
I’d expect a furlough announcement today from ENY too. If they plan to furlough on Oct 1 and they need to give 30 days notice...

From what I’ve heard they have been getting personal phone calls from the CPO (or possibly higher? RN?) with their initial notice with probably the letter to follow.

buddies8 08-31-2020 08:20 AM


Originally Posted by dk104444 (Post 3119701)
Acocording to scope, AA lost 30% from international flights. ALL WO are suppose to shrink 30% also

my understanding aa scope is tied to narrow body aircraft, not wide body, I could be wrong.

SomePilotDude 08-31-2020 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by buddies8 (Post 3119791)
my understanding aa scope is tied to narrow body aircraft, not wide body, I could be wrong.

Agreed. I’ve always heard regional fleet is a percentage of the mainline NB fleet with different allotments for large and small RJ’s. I cannot remember the seat count between small and large. 175’s and -700/900’s are large, but I believe some -700’s were being converted to small to free up space.

jake cutter 08-31-2020 09:25 AM

PSA Announces 35% of Pilots Furloughed Oct. 1
 

Originally Posted by But seriously (Post 3119641)
I’d expect a furlough announcement today from ENY too. If they plan to furlough on Oct 1 and they need to give 30 days notice...



It already began last week. Kinda surprised we haven’t heard any numbers from the union .

boxthrower 08-31-2020 10:12 AM

Envoy is doing less than 100 more departures per day than PSA is right now...616 at Envoy vs 531 at PSA. You also have about 500 more pilots than PSA does (soon it’ll be way more than 500 more...sigh)...I’d be surprised if Envoy doesn’t announce more furloughs soon. For your sake I hope they don’t.

dera 08-31-2020 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by jake cutter (Post 3119825)
It already began last week. Kinda surprised we haven’t heard any numbers from the union .

You didn't read the email that was sent Aug26?


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