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Naviator 10-13-2020 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by Lucifer (Post 3144463)
Wasn't it flight cancellations that got you raises? OT is often much cheaper than carrying more full time staff, all with benefits, all requiring training. Up to a certain point OT is a much preferred thing from a financial standpoint.
On the other hand, flight cancellations are not good.... and when it's for a lack of crew they need to hire more. (or recall sooner).

You really should explain your rational for that statement to your pilots. Coming from somebody inside a union, it's very odd indeed.

(I'm assuming based upon your prior posts that you do hold some union position)

17 flights today and 81 people on the reserve list for today. Nothing is going to cancel due to staffing.

if staffing is low and flights will cancel if OT isn’t picked up, then it makes sense not to pick up OT to incentivize recalls. If there’s no chance of cancelation due to staffing then picking up OT benefits the pilot, hurts the company and has zero effect on furloughed pilots.

only a Sith deals in absolutes and this situation has nuance.

Cyio 10-13-2020 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by Naviator (Post 3144690)
17 flights today and 81 people on the reserve list for today. Nothing is going to cancel due to staffing.

if staffing is low and flights will cancel if OT isn’t picked up, then it makes sense not to pick up OT to incentivize recalls. If there’s no chance of cancelation due to staffing then picking up OT benefits the pilot, hurts the company and has zero effect on furloughed pilots.

only a Sith deals in absolutes and this situation has nuance.

Yeah, this is it in a nutshell. The only thing not picking up OT will due is worsen qol for reserve pilots and save the company money. Once could argue that it would also violate past practices and become an issue for that as well.

Lahey 10-13-2020 12:47 PM

#wereallinthistogether #tfwyd

BigZ 10-13-2020 01:02 PM

Sitting in ORD, looking at N4 and wondering, what's this OT y'all talking about

highfarfast 10-13-2020 01:05 PM


Originally Posted by BigZ (Post 3144762)
Sitting in ORD, looking at N4 and wondering, what's this OT y'all talking about

Apparently that's the complaint. People done took it.

OR

It's been assigned to a small percentage of the bagillion pilots we have on reserve.

Take your pick.

Airguitar 10-13-2020 10:07 PM

My previous union encouraged picking up OT in these situations, making the company pay a premium.

dera 10-13-2020 10:09 PM


Originally Posted by Airguitar (Post 3145050)
My previous union encouraged picking up OT in these situations, making the company pay a premium.

Your comment makes no sense and not relevant to Envoy.

Airguitar 10-13-2020 10:16 PM

Lol, damn!


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