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Originally Posted by Freighthotdog
(Post 3143286)
The same thing happened at Piedmont.
There was a ton of open time, a few people abusing the system so they removed open time and assigned all the open flying to reserves. |
Originally Posted by 3GreenKSNA
(Post 3143059)
What I am getting at here is the day to day costs of the operation far out weigh what money would be saved by by not picking up OT. There are so many pieces to this vastly complex puzzle.
Not picking up OT is not going to bring pilots back, its just going to force junior pilots to be forced into a junior man on their day off. They will still be paid a premium for the junior man but their QOL will take a big hit. Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk The company is wasting money on this and the cadet program. It is not understaffed, just ineptly staffed. As other said, NOT picking up OT will only hurt QOL of those losing the pay. Let the company pay the premium instead of having reserve pilots already being paid fly it. |
Originally Posted by rld1k
(Post 3143293)
Not possible here with our contract
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Originally Posted by APCHCLIMB
(Post 3143371)
It's in our contract too- a certain percent of flying will be in open time.
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That's correct mgt cannot hide ot
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Originally Posted by rld1k
(Post 3143214)
If there's $10,000 of open time and no one picks it up, reserves on our overstaffed lists will fly it and the company spends $0 extra. Can someone do the math and explain how that brings furloughs back?
It would be different if we were understaffed. We aren't. Look up the FO lists. They have been 0d with junior mans for the past few days now. November will be even worse. CA on CA flying in ORD a few weeks ago. OT flying costs them more than bringing pilots back. |
Originally Posted by dera
(Post 3143422)
Overstaffed lists?
Look up the FO lists. They have been 0d with junior mans for the past few days now. November will be even worse. CA on CA flying in ORD a few weeks ago. OT flying costs them more than bringing pilots back. Side note: I tried to come up with a good “CA on CA” joke, but nothing seemed worthy of publication. |
Originally Posted by dera
(Post 3143422)
Overstaffed lists?
Look up the FO lists. They have been 0d with junior mans for the past few days now. November will be even worse. CA on CA flying in ORD a few weeks ago. OT flying costs them more than bringing pilots back. |
Originally Posted by rld1k
(Post 3143434)
There are 90 captains available on rsv in Chicago some days. There is no staffing problem.
Its not a staffing problem, its a staff allocation problem. And as of now, they have wrong amount of people in wrong places. TDY is expensive, pilots picking up OT is even more expensive. Recalling furloughed pilots is the cheapest way to fix it. Company just does not understand what their employees cost them. |
Originally Posted by But seriously
(Post 3143433)
I know you have much more visibility on this stuff than most of us, but won’t their staffing issues work out once they get everyone in position after the displacements? Between moving LGA pilots out and working through the downgrades, I’d think they have a large number of FOs in the pipeline for both DFW and ORD.
Side note: I tried to come up with a good “CA on CA” joke, but nothing seemed worthy of publication. So we will shrink. Republic will be the winner in this game, they have the staffing to pick up flying when things start to get back to normal. |
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