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3GreenKSNA 10-09-2020 06:12 PM

So using alcohol wipes or sani-com wipes to clean the EFB mount, melting the material and requiring the 20k - 40k window to be replaced and now multiple times is way more expensive than the cost savings of not picking up OT. Drop in bucket so think big picture here.

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buddies8 10-09-2020 06:24 PM


Originally Posted by 3GreenKSNA (Post 3142982)
So using alcohol wipes or sani-com wipes to clean the EFB mount, melting the material and requiring the 20k - 40k window to be replaced and now multiple times is way more expensive than the cost savings of not picking up OT. Drop in bucket so think big picture here.

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careful...........

rld1k 10-09-2020 08:47 PM


Originally Posted by buddies8 (Post 3142990)
careful...........

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3GreenKSNA 10-09-2020 09:48 PM

What I am getting at here is the day to day costs of the operation far out weigh what money would be saved by by not picking up OT. There are so many pieces to this vastly complex puzzle.

Not picking up OT is not going to bring pilots back, its just going to force junior pilots to be forced into a junior man on their day off. They will still be paid a premium for the junior man but their QOL will take a big hit.

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CLE to IAH 10-10-2020 05:55 AM


Originally Posted by aewhistleblower (Post 3140775)
Because, I have bills to pay and I don’t like to live paycheck to paycheck.

I don’t know everyone’s situation but given how hard you hammered LB (rightly so..... that guy is a royal POS)... I’m surprised at this stance on the matter.

jake cutter 10-10-2020 07:27 AM

Some say picking up OT won’t amount to a hill of beans.
But this is our hill. And these are our beans.

rld1k 10-10-2020 07:37 AM

If there's $10,000 of open time and no one picks it up, reserves on our overstaffed lists will fly it and the company spends $0 extra. Can someone do the math and explain how that brings furloughs back?

It would be different if we were understaffed. We aren't.

buddies8 10-10-2020 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by jake cutter (Post 3143210)
Some say picking up OT won’t amount to a hill of beans.
But this is our hill. And these are our beans.

explain how not picking up ot will help anyone.
also precedent has been set on american property the corporation will sue the union if the pilots take your position. It cost apa 25 million dollars.

jake cutter 10-10-2020 07:48 AM

Actually I’m with you. I just felt it necessary to bring a Naked Gun quote into this thread.

Freighthotdog 10-10-2020 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by rld1k (Post 3143214)
If there's $10,000 of open time and no one picks it up, reserves on our overstaffed lists will fly it and the company spends $0 extra. Can someone do the math and explain how that brings furloughs back?

It would be different if we were understaffed. We aren't.


The same thing happened at Piedmont.

There was a ton of open time, a few people abusing the system so they removed open time and assigned all the open flying to reserves.


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