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Originally Posted by dera
(Post 3315473)
Hard to see how the regional model can compete. Even ACMIs pay so well these days. 1st year Atlas FOs making 205/hr, and senior CAs making 520/hr for some flights, without doing OT.
That 50/hr for the dream of flowing one day just isn't going to cut it. |
Originally Posted by KirillTheThrill
(Post 3315479)
Hey Dera, we finally agree on something 😀.
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Originally Posted by dera
(Post 3315481)
You agree with my math now, 205/hr is 4x regional FO hourly pay? :)
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Originally Posted by KirillTheThrill
(Post 3315485)
Nah not that part, but don’t worry I don’t count GoJet paying their pilots 300% either. Technically they’re the highest paid regional pilots in the industry right now 😃.
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Originally Posted by dera
(Post 3315473)
Hard to see how the regional model can compete. Even ACMIs pay so well these days. 1st year Atlas FOs making 205/hr, and senior CAs making 520/hr for some flights, without doing OT.
That 50/hr for the dream of flowing one day just isn't going to cut it. |
We must demand better. The union isn’t doing anything unfortunately. It’s actually in crumbles. Everyone keeps living.
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Originally Posted by FAIPMAFIA
(Post 3317198)
We must demand better. The union isn’t doing anything unfortunately. It’s actually in crumbles. Everyone keeps living.
How, what and from who, would you demand? |
Originally Posted by Excargodog
(Post 3314412)
The problem is that the AAG business model REQUIRES regional feed and they DON’T (at least not yet) need flow. They can (at least at present) meet their mainline new hire needs by hiring ex military, hiring away competitors regional pilots, and hiring ULCC people who are still junior enough to be tempted. But increasing the rate of acquisition of their own regional pilots would just hurt their bottom line. They’d much rather hurt their competitors bottom lines by stealing their pilots than make it harder to keep their own regionals fully staffed.
And I really think if F9 and NK do something about their ludicrous first year pay, a lot of regionals are going to lose a lot of reasonably senior people. https://i.ibb.co/FX535cJ/12438-F39-5...5-A2-E7579.jpg This will be interesting to watch play out. What he said!! |
Originally Posted by dera
(Post 3317213)
Demand, how?
How, what and from who, would you demand? TORO |
Would you like to work for a stable, secure..
Maybe trying to fix compensation?
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