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eligible2flow 11-05-2021 08:01 AM


Originally Posted by FlyGuy2021 (Post 3318837)
Is this correct? Is Envoy really holding flows back?

If so, does this mean that no Sept/Oct/Nov flows for Envoy?

They didn't make you promise not to sue in the bonus agreement for nothin

FlyGuy2021 11-05-2021 08:18 AM


Originally Posted by eligible2flow (Post 3318838)
They didn't make you promise not to sue in the bonus agreement for nothin

Seriously? Are all of the AA WOs doing this, or just Envoy?

buddies8 11-05-2021 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by FlyGuy2021 (Post 3318837)
Is this correct? Is Envoy really holding flows back?

If so, does this mean that no Sept/Oct/Nov flows for Envoy?

read your contract

FlyGuy2021 11-05-2021 09:27 AM


Originally Posted by buddies8 (Post 3318868)
read your contract

The make up...I know.

But that didn't answer my question. Are the flows going to AA on schedule, and as planned?

buddies8 11-05-2021 10:35 AM

Actually your contract states you can be withheld unders certain circumstances. So if 20 are to go, 20 will go even if someone is withheld, just go down to the next pilot.

dera 11-05-2021 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 3318822)
Burn baby burn.

how much of the uptick in highly questionable discipline/missed assignments and stuff is a perverse retention effort trying to get dirt to send out on PRIAs?

None. MA's and discipline are not in your PRIA from Envoy.

dera 11-05-2021 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by FlyGuy2021 (Post 3318883)
The make up...I know.

But that didn't answer my question. Are the flows going to AA on schedule, and as planned?

Yes they are for now.

daOldMan 11-05-2021 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by buddies8 (Post 3318868)
read your contract

Hahaha. Wait until you get to AA and realize that contracts don't matter. At all.

The company does whatever they want and it is APAs job to defend the company and pretend that all is well.

Enjoy your time at Envoy where the work rules are significantly better and contracts matter.

buddies8 11-05-2021 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by daOldMan (Post 3318927)
Hahaha. Wait until you get to AA and realize that contracts don't matter. At all.

The company does whatever they want and it is APAs job to defend the company and pretend that all is well.

Enjoy your time at Envoy where the work rules are significantly better and contracts matter.

Well this time they're doing it by contract.
enjoy your time at envoy.

NoValueAviator 11-05-2021 01:16 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 3318915)
None. MA's and discipline are not in your PRIA from Envoy.

why are they going so ham with them lately? Trying to prevent AA ots attrition?


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