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Run the numbers and make your choice.
you are no better off at aa than delta when your a new hire. Plus there contract if I'm not wrong is way better than aa's.

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Originally Posted by JonSnow (Post 3407832)

Hey fellas,
I need your input.
6 months to flow and got a CJO from Delta.
I live in Chicago, can relocate to one of the Delta bases in a couple of years, but I don’t really want to.
Accepted the retention bonus.
Should I stay or should I go?

Is this a serious question?
https://i.ibb.co/XjY2ptz/8-CCBD19-E-...-C84-C11-D.jpg

Do you have the vaguest idea what the interest rate will be on a company rated B- when they have to refinance $46 billion in debt? Even before the Fed started pumping up interest rates AA was paying up to 12% to borrow money. And AApaid $1.8 Billion last year for just interest on their debt - when they had a lot less debt than they do now:

https://i.ibb.co/MRRGxHm/3817-A8-E2-...526971-CC7.jpg

What do you suppose they are going to be paying next year? And the year after?

Now compare their net income - even before the pandemic - to their current debt interest.

https://i.ibb.co/HCJjYC2/41-EA7546-8...C3-DA10-EC.jpg

So what does THAT tell you?

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Originally Posted by JonSnow (Post 3407832)

Paying back the money is no longer a “big deal” since the tax situation as far as I know was resolved. Now you pay back whatever you actually got. I would not hang around, you got a winning ticket, go cash it in.

AA 787 FO here, Living in base and not commuting is HUGE...stay and keep applying to UAL or be a widebody FO in 2 years at AA...totally different part of the airline. That being said, if you want to move to another Delta city....go to Delta.

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Originally Posted by safeflight (Post 3408575)

I've been here 3 years at AA... Where can I hold widebody fo?

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Originally Posted by safeflight (Post 3408575)

You're at AA as a 787 FO and your first (and only) post is to tell someone to stay at Envoy and not take a CJO to Delta??

I think cr700 just created another account because no one believes what he says.

Delta seems to be the better company if all else is equal and you fit in w/ their fd culture.

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Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 3408916)

Delta seems to be the better company if all else is equal and you fit in w/ their fd culture.

I jumpseated once on AA, where the CA was an America West guy, and FO was a CLT US Air guy with an earlier DOH than the CA.
I'd take Delta culture over that "culture" all day long.

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Originally Posted by FlyyGuyy (Post 3408839)

I've been here 3 years at AA... Where can I hold widebody fo?

At United Airlines.

So how is each airlines fd culture compare? My only personal experiences are from the AA jump and its mostly been pretty alright. Hows Delta and United?