When should I apply? Got Denied
03-28-2023, 07:09 PM
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Excargodog has the key piece of advice: work with reality and go where the jobs are
Regionals are no longer really interested in FO’s
So figure out another path.
For part 91 jobs, press the flesh. Talk to the counter girls and line guys. The airlines are sucking a lot of experienced corporate guys out leaving jobs available.
And get yourself on an income driven repayment plan.
Regionals are no longer really interested in FO’s
So figure out another path.
For part 91 jobs, press the flesh. Talk to the counter girls and line guys. The airlines are sucking a lot of experienced corporate guys out leaving jobs available.
And get yourself on an income driven repayment plan.
03-28-2023, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by pitchattitude
In all fairness, when aviation colleges were selling restricted ATP programs four plus years ago, all the regionals were hiring them. .
03-29-2023, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
Yeah, for a first year pay of $40-50 an hour with a 70 hour guarantee. That wasn’t a helluva return on a $300k investment even back then.
There has definitely been a sweet spot. Timing is everything, unfortunately you just don’t know when the RIGHT time is until it’s after the fact. Even if you do, there is usually not enough you can do to control your own timing.
03-31-2023, 05:28 AM
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If you really want a regional job I would apply to all of them, not just Envoy. It’s a fairly competitive market now that the pay is so high. A lot of guys with 121 and/or turbine time are applying to the regionals now. You need an unrestricted ATP to get your app through the door at ACMI or LCCs so I’d recommend getting into the right seat of anything with 2 engines as quick as you can.
R-ATP is only good for getting you into a regional prior to 1500 TT. Otherwise it’s pretty useless. Unfortunately it sounds like you went to Riddle and paid over 2x what you could have paid at just about any other University flight school.
R-ATP is only good for getting you into a regional prior to 1500 TT. Otherwise it’s pretty useless. Unfortunately it sounds like you went to Riddle and paid over 2x what you could have paid at just about any other University flight school.
03-31-2023, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by dera
Sorry to tell you but the college sales people who sold you the RATP were lying to you.
You are the lowest candidate, below all the non-RATP candidates. Hope the tide turns soon.
Find a job that gets you to unrestricted ATP mins, and you can start paying the 300k you paid for no reason.
You are the lowest candidate, below all the non-RATP candidates. Hope the tide turns soon.
Find a job that gets you to unrestricted ATP mins, and you can start paying the 300k you paid for no reason.
03-31-2023, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Flyguy255
Unfortunately it sounds like you went to Riddle
Turns out it didn't matter lol
-$300,000
03-31-2023, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by flykin
18 year old me was impulsive and wanted to "go to the best aviation university in the world".
Turns out it didn't matter lol
Turns out it didn't matter lol
04-01-2023, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Brickfire
Don't beat yourself up. They market like they do because laypeople believe it. Get yourself on an income driven repayment plan and move on.
I refinanced my loans last year, I don't know if I can do income driven repayment since I've agreed to the $1,800/m for 15 years.
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