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Brickfire 04-21-2023 07:47 AM


Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 3627333)
That was part of my point. Group I was about 75% of Group 2 (737/320) pay, if I recall. Is it still in the current contract?

I think all three contracts have crj900 rates.

They’re appropriate,

The issue now isn’t pilot pay rates, it’s dragging the ground crew, fa’s, mechanics, dispatchers etc along

AvSec 04-21-2023 02:24 PM

The Best
 

Originally Posted by flykin (Post 3617110)
Yep, I don't regret it (yet), but young 18 year old me was impulsive and wanted to "go to the best aviation university in the world".

Turns out it didn't matter lol

-$300,000

:confused:

how does Riddle qualify as “The Best”?

kmcca4 04-21-2023 08:57 PM

For you guys that received a CJO recently, how long from CJO to class date? Thanks in advance

BigZ 04-21-2023 10:10 PM


Originally Posted by AvSec (Post 3627499)
:confused:

how does Riddle qualify as “The Best”?

UND detected :D

sailingfun 04-22-2023 04:09 AM


Originally Posted by flykin (Post 3617110)
Yep, I don't regret it (yet), but young 18 year old me was impulsive and wanted to "go to the best aviation university in the world".

Turns out it didn't matter lol

-$300,000

300,000 seems excessive. Did you get any grants or scholarships? Did you work during college to reduce the need for loans?

Aquilotti1 04-25-2023 04:21 AM


Originally Posted by kmcca4 (Post 3627632)
For you guys that received a CJO recently, how long from CJO to class date? Thanks in advance

would like to know the same, thank you.

pangolin 04-25-2023 04:40 AM


Originally Posted by SonicFlyer (Post 3617762)
At Sun N Fun this week Envoy recruiters were telling people to apply within 200 hours of ATP mins.

And Endeavor said they weren't booking FO new hire classes until at least the end of the year.

This is because envoy will expand while Endeavor shrinks. This is directly related to captain recruiting and upgrade eligible FOs.

cdlwingnut 05-22-2023 06:24 PM

$300,000 in loans? wow I know doctors that didn't have that much student loan. And in a few years they will be able to afford to fly their own Baron. What did they fly at that school? brand new cirrus SR-22 and Beach Barons?

I hate to say it but I've had kids come to me for their CFI certificates from emery riddle, UND, ATP, you name it, some were very good some I wouldn't hire to drive an uber.

I have no idea what sales pitch they gave you but the magic number moves as the needs of the airlines change, right now they need captains so if you have 1000 hrs of part 121 time then you can write your own ticket, There are a lot of part 91 gigs out there that would take you though. Some pay really well.

Don't kick yourself too much though, you don't know what you don't know till you know it. Best advice now is to keep flying anything that is safe and airworthy that you can get your hands on. Hopefully your parents still have a room for you, and pinch those pennies. There's a reason pilots, yes even 450,000$ a year Delta captains have a rep for being cheapskates.

Redtails4U 05-23-2023 05:03 AM

Anyone have an answer to the question
 
I think the question of reapplying, updating, and or removing the Company specific airline application all together until you reach what is needed is a great question.

So, if you get the, you don’t meet the minimum or the reapply in X months, and maybe even the General TBNT letter with no date to reapply. Should you keep your application for that company in airlines app’s and update the information, or remove it and reenter it when you meet the date, time or other things requested? Do airlines put a type of “ignore this guy/girl” application which can only be overridden by a reapplying of the application, rather then an update.


My opinion is to keep it in the applied section and update offen but, what do I know.



Find the Subject interesting and would appreciate a response from those in the know.

Thanks
Sam

TransWorld 05-23-2023 09:12 AM

I have heard for some places it is 6 months to reapply. But if they say something, follow their lead.


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