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Old 08-23-2023 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by WhatsV2
In my new hire class, everyone off the street had some sort of affiliation with an Envoy partner school (ATP, Purdue, Riddle, L3 etc) or 135 experience. From all my friends that have also applied, the ones that have no affiliations received TBNTs.
That kind of makes me feel a little better
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Old 08-23-2023 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by flykin
So I basically emailed them begging for an interview after the initial automated denial, and I got a recruiter to finally tell me what went wrong.

1) I didn't enter my passport information (it was highlighted as optional on AirlineApps, and I just brushed past it)
2) I had a gap of employment between my high school graduation and starting university (literally 3 months for summer vacation..) Also between graduating University and finding a CFI job.

One other thing, they won't take you unless you have ever last hour necessary for R-ATP (I got denied AGAIN because of 2.4 hours of cross country time lol).

Told me to call them when I have the hours to schedule my interview.
How in the hell does one remember, or get info on all the jobs that you had maybe 10+ yrs ago???
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Old 08-24-2023 | 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by MacrossJet
How in the hell does one remember, or get info on all the jobs that you had maybe 10+ yrs ago???
Its not that difficult... Google has all the info you need. I had 3+ years total at companies that were out of business... I indicated that and listed the name of a person from there who could attest to my having worked there.

And to the guy who's talking about meeting envoys mins... Its very much a buyers market right now. Having the bare mins won't cut it if you aren't already affiliated with the company.
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Old 08-24-2023 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by MacrossJet
How in the hell does one remember, or get info on all the jobs that you had maybe 10+ yrs ago???
Making such a list should be a priority. You should be maintaining a list of employers, with contact information, phones, emails, faxes, addresses, supervisor names, dates of employment, wages, etc. Your file should include duties, the nature of full time or part time or seasonal, and record the reason for your separation, and any changes in the employment such as promotions. Any, or all of those things may be asked by former employers. You should cover all periods so there are no gaps, to include unemployment, extended vacations, etc. With a computer, this is a simple word file, but should be kept as a lifetime record. You'll be doing job applications for a long time to come. Even if you think you've reached the big brass legacy ring, furloughs and other events occur which mean you may be filling out applications far into the future. Keep a simple word document and keep it updated.

The same is true of your education history, residence history, etc. Some employers may only want five years, or seven, or ten, but others may want longer.

Today, if you need to reconstruct your life and didn't bother to keep track of where you've been, that's all available online, sometimes for a little price; you can look up your address or employment history, etc; it's all there. It's also kept in IRS records; your tax returns should have employment data in your W-2's or 1099's, etc. School information from the schools themselves.

Some employment may even require contact information for someone who can verify your employment at places that may have gone out of business, such as a co-worker who knew you at that time, depending on the depth of the information that an employer might seek.
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Old 08-25-2023 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnBurke
Making such a list should be a priority. You should be maintaining a list of employers, with contact information, phones, emails, faxes, addresses, supervisor names, dates of employment, wages, etc. Your file should include duties, the nature of full time or part time or seasonal, and record the reason for your separation, and any changes in the employment such as promotions. Any, or all of those things may be asked by former employers. You should cover all periods so there are no gaps, to include unemployment, extended vacations, etc. With a computer, this is a simple word file, but should be kept as a lifetime record. You'll be doing job applications for a long time to come. Even if you think you've reached the big brass legacy ring, furloughs and other events occur which mean you may be filling out applications far into the future. Keep a simple word document and keep it updated.

The same is true of your education history, residence history, etc. Some employers may only want five years, or seven, or ten, but others may want longer.

Today, if you need to reconstruct your life and didn't bother to keep track of where you've been, that's all available online, sometimes for a little price; you can look up your address or employment history, etc; it's all there. It's also kept in IRS records; your tax returns should have employment data in your W-2's or 1099's, etc. School information from the schools themselves.

Some employment may even require contact information for someone who can verify your employment at places that may have gone out of business, such as a co-worker who knew you at that time, depending on the depth of the information that an employer might seek.
Thanks for that, I appreciate it. I do all that now... but high school and early college MacrossJet did not. Good to know that its all online somewhere.
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