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RJ Pilot 06-11-2015 01:11 PM
Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 1902133)
Nonsense. Some (many junior) Envoy pilots are so desperate to prop up their airline, they're here making false claims and giving bad advice. The idea the only future is Envoy is absurd. The flow is just a projection and some of them are claiming cerainty. Moreover, claiming a pilot beed not be concerned about 121 PIC time anymore because they don't need it at Envoy with the supposedly certain flow in a very specific time is a disservice to aspiring new pilots. They don't care about THEM, just their OWN ride., they demand mods silence them.

These pilots need to grow up.
Kinda AA guys passing this last contract.

PilotJ3 06-11-2015 02:26 PM
Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 1902133)
Nonsense. Some (many junior) Envoy pilots are so desperate to prop up their airline, they're here making false claims and giving bad advice. The idea the only future is Envoy is absurd. The flow is just a projection and some of them are claiming cerainty. Moreover, claiming a pilot beed not be concerned about 121 PIC time anymore because they don't need it at Envoy with the supposedly certain flow in a very specific time is a disservice to aspiring new pilots. They don't care about THEM, just their OWN ride. Then, when others highlight their self-serving B.S., they demand mods silence them.

These pilots need to grow up.
Like the pilot who flew from Eagle to AA and still hanging around with kids.

Yup, grow up man...leave envoy pilots alone. Seems that you had a bad time here and you want to see Envoy fail.

FirstClass 06-11-2015 02:39 PM
Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 1902133)
Nonsense. Some (many junior) Envoy pilots are so desperate to prop up their airline, they're here making false claims and giving bad advice. The idea the only future is Envoy is absurd. The flow is just a projection and some of them are claiming cerainty. Moreover, claiming a pilot beed not be concerned about 121 PIC time anymore because they don't need it at Envoy with the supposedly certain flow in a very specific time is a disservice to aspiring new pilots. They don't care about THEM, just their OWN ride. Then, when others highlight their self-serving B.S., they demand mods silence them.

These pilots need to grow up.
Excellent post, sums it up pretty good.

Cujo665 06-11-2015 04:20 PM
Check your HI6's... The extra flying I spoke of has been announced. It will also be at 200% until August when it should migrate into the monthly schedules.

jdflyer1999 06-11-2015 05:04 PM
Originally Posted by Cujo665 (Post 1902353)
Check your HI6's... The extra flying I spoke of has been announced. It will also be at 200% until August when it should migrate into the monthly schedules.
The return of 6-7 hundred block hours per month in just DFW. All to be paid at 200%.

Or $52/flight hour for 1st year FO ($68 for 2nd year) and $170 for junior Captains.

Much more to come. There should another 900-1100 hours per month coming.

Ar Pilot 06-11-2015 05:54 PM
Originally Posted by jdflyer1999 (Post 1902402)
The return of 6-7 hundred block hours per month in just DFW. All to be paid at 200%.

Or $52/flight hour for 1st year FO ($68 for 2nd year) and $170 for junior Captains.

Much more to come. There should another 900-1100 hours per month coming.

I'm sure the guys with 11 days off a month will be eating this up.

eaglefly 06-11-2015 06:19 PM
Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1902182)
Kinda AA guys passing this last contract.
They went for the ca$h, but I wasn't one of them. That's why I (and the majority IMO) will be scope salesmen in 2020 (or perhaps sooner). You see, we have nothing left to trade for Delta rates in the future, which it seems is what most care about here. Sad for sure, but that's the way it is. Most AA pilots are over 55 and this is likely their last contract. Ca$h is king I guess and since we trail Delta in virtually every contractual respect already, Parker can kick the can now in perpetuity.

I understand this means little to you from the dark confines of mom's basement though. Time to shoot another GV approach on your computer.

Good Luck ! ;)

eaglefly 06-11-2015 06:25 PM
Originally Posted by PilotJ3 (Post 1902254)
Like the pilot who flew from Eagle to AA and still hanging around with kids.
Well gee, then either you are a kid yourself by being here or not a kid and hanging out with them too by, ..........you guessed it, being here. :cool:

Originally Posted by PilotJ3 (Post 1902254)
Yup, grow up man...leave envoy pilots alone. Seems that you had a bad time here and you want to see Envoy fail.
I'd love to see Envoy pilots win (well most of them :rolleyes:), but first THEY have to get real and you guessed it..........STOP being "kids" like you admit they are.

Sadly, from what I see and hear, that seems unlikely. :(

eaglefly 06-11-2015 06:27 PM
Originally Posted by Cujo665 (Post 1902353)
Check your HI6's... The extra flying I spoke of has been announced. It will also be at 200% until August when it should migrate into the monthly schedules.
All temporary moves at the direction of AAG, but spun by Envoy management and their lapdog's as something else.

PilotCrusader 06-11-2015 06:38 PM
Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 1902467)
All temporary moves at the direction of AAG, but spun by Envoy management and their lapdog's as something else.
And you know this how? You have the whole
6th floor bugged? Cmon dude. Lay off. Let go. You'll live longer.


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