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KingAirpilot90 05-28-2015 06:03 AM
Originally Posted by Flyboy87 (Post 1890385)
So why would this be appealing to a potential new hire? I have a friend at Envoy trying to get me to apply and is convinced reserve time and flow time will drop significantly.
Your friend is trying to get that referral bonus :D

JohnnyDingus 05-28-2015 06:06 AM
Originally Posted by Flyboy87 (Post 1890385)
So why would this be appealing to a potential new hire? I have a friend at Envoy trying to get me to apply and is convinced reserve time and flow time will drop significantly.
Because you'll flow in 5 years..... Sit reserve for 4 years as an FO and flow to AA in 5. Awesome!

FirstClass 05-28-2015 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyboy87 (Post 1890385)
So why would this be appealing to a potential new hire? I have a friend at Envoy trying to get me to apply and is convinced reserve time and flow time will drop significantly.
There does seem to be a discrepancy from what cujo, 404xyl, skyvector, and PilotCrusader have to say. Let's see how they respond before making any judgments though.

Good Luck!

FirstClass 05-28-2015 06:14 AM
Originally Posted by JohnnyDingus (Post 1890388)
Because you'll flow in 5 years..... Sit reserve for 4 years as an FO and flow to AA in 5. Awesome!
Sounds like your saying only reserve FO's can flow to American.:rolleyes:

TallFlyer 05-28-2015 07:14 AM
Originally Posted by Buzzlightyear (Post 1889963)
Word on the street is they took more concessions for that vacancy bid.
Which imaginary street is that?

FirstClass 05-28-2015 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by TallFlyer (Post 1890440)
Which imaginary street is that?
filler-filleroo

Whacker77 05-28-2015 08:52 AM
Originally Posted by 3inthegreen (Post 1890364)
Right now Reserve time is 4 years and increasing. Each month we have less lines and more reserves . Currently running at 35% reserves for FO's.
So a person who applies today and is offered a job faces the prospects of four years of not having a line? I guess that's why they are offering a signing bonus. Does Envoy simply have too many pilots for the number of aircraft they fly? Is that why reserve time is so long?

snippercr 05-28-2015 09:05 AM
Originally Posted by Whacker77 (Post 1890490)
So a person who applies today and is offered a job faces the prospects of four years of not having a line? I guess that's why they are offering a signing bonus. Does Envoy simply have too many pilots for the number of aircraft they fly? Is that why reserve time is so long?
Mainly since we started shrinking in November 2011 due to BK, there has been stagnation all over. Parked the ATRs, the 135s, most of the 140s, 30 145s to other carriers, etc. As a result, shrinking through attrition has caused long reserve and upgrade times.

As for what a person can expect in 4 years, well, there are more than a few opinions on here as to what to expect. I'll let them chime in. Look for a guy named RJ Pilot - he really knows his stuff and always wishes you good luck. Good peoples.

Senior Skipper 05-28-2015 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyboy87 (Post 1890385)
So why would this be appealing to a potential new hire? I have a friend at Envoy trying to get me to apply and is convinced reserve time and flow time will drop significantly.

Is your friend's name Judas, and did he mention anything about 30 pieces of silver? [emoji57]

Senior Skipper 05-28-2015 09:32 AM
Originally Posted by KingAirpilot90 (Post 1890386)
Your friend is trying to get that referral bonus :D

Pretty sure you've nailed it.


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