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copycopy 07-14-2014 12:01 PM


Originally Posted by csh405 (Post 1684043)
Man and I thought messi was depressed last night...

Hell no, do you realize how quickly Messi could get a wide body max days off line for Aerolinas Argentinas? They just had a couple spots open up in the A340 fleet a couple weeks ago! Nothing to be depressed about there!

Bzzt 07-14-2014 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by csh405 (Post 1684043)
Man and I thought messi was depressed last night...

Messi is never depressed , that dude can get any piece of ass in the entire world whenever and however he wants it.

Jvw700 07-14-2014 12:29 PM

Union says nothing but talks so far, maybe something more official in the future....

JT8D 07-14-2014 12:30 PM

Here, something of substance:


July 14, 2014

Message from MEC Chairman and Pilot Unity Building Events



Fellow Envoy Pilots:

Last week I outlined our efforts toward working on solutions to our current need to re-fleet. Those efforts include informal discussions with company executives to identify areas of mutual interest and concepts that benefit our pilot group while providing the structure necessary to allow Envoy to grow and prosper. Whereas our discussions continue, we have yet to reach a point of negotiating changes to our collective bargaining agreement.

These efforts could potentially yield an agreement at some point in the future. In the event we begin to approach this point, we will be looking to you for input. It’s critical that you stay engaged and informed. Please be sure to keep looking for our communications as well as maintaining contact with your local reps and P2P volunteers.

In an effort to expand our communication efforts and provide opportunities for you to interact with your leadership, we will be hosting pilot unity building (PUB) events in each council during the last two weeks of July.

The tentative schedule:

· July 24 -- NYC

· July 27 -- DFW

· July 28 -- Training Department

· July 29 -- MIA

· July 30 -- ORD



Please stay tuned as details on times/locations will be distributed as soon as finalized.

Fly Safe.

Bill Sprague

MEC Chairman

Buzzlightyear 07-14-2014 12:44 PM

Informational picketing on July 24th?!

Swedish Blender 07-14-2014 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by Jvw700 (Post 1684032)
Ummm aren't the minimums now 1500/ATP mins?.....

It is now, but not when BZZT was hired. Even with the new rule, you probably don't need the multi time you used to.

As far as Messi, he makes about 80 mil a year salary/endorsements. He can buy his own jet and sit in whatever seat he wants.

fosters 07-14-2014 12:59 PM


Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 1684040)
BTW, I have some more bad news for you. Talk to a few long-haul 777 guys doing a lot of back-side flying. It ain't all white wine and unicorns and it can be a tough and tiring way to live. My bet is you'd get to that point, it would not meet your unrealistic expectations and you'd complain and want to quit that too and end up on antidepressants.

This is true. International is like doing red-eyes. They're great for commuters but absolutely suck in general IMO. You always feel tired.

buddies8 07-14-2014 01:02 PM

Versus how I feel now

chignutsak 07-14-2014 01:19 PM

Ahhhh, the ignore function. Ya'll need to try it sometime - it's fun and easy! So long bzzzt, or is it LoadMaster C141?

Jvw700 07-14-2014 02:54 PM

They'll be in informal talks for eternity is my guess....


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