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paxhauler85 05-29-2014 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by N927EV (Post 1653987)
That's fine. Merge us with air wisky...but with their contract.

Thinking you'd have to negotiate all of that back during a JCBA process as Pinnacle/Colgan/Mesaba did.

I wish it was that easy.

Saabs 05-29-2014 08:33 AM


Originally Posted by N927EV (Post 1653987)
That's fine. Merge us with air wisky...but with their contract.

Isn't their contract ready to be negotiated again?

FODhopper 05-29-2014 09:59 AM


Originally Posted by Saabs (Post 1654020)
Isn't their contract ready to be negotiated again?

We are in negotiations right now...still 11 sections to go including compensation.

Union sent out an update saying that Mmgt tried twice to offer a "closeout" proposal but it offered little in value to the pilots. Counter-offers were sent including signing bonuses, increased per diem and/or increased compensation.

That was rejected by mgmt of course. Union says it will not go for minimalist increases in compensation with no tangible return for pilots.

We are in a concessionary contract from last decade and thankfully there are still enough people around here to remember that. General feeling I get from pilot group is that a good contract is better than succumbing to SJS.

Next mediation session is late next month.

AVIATORCFI 05-29-2014 07:29 PM

Is it still possible to get ORD as a new hire? Thanks

stormchaser11 05-29-2014 07:42 PM


Originally Posted by AVIATORCFI (Post 1654428)
Is it still possible to get ORD as a new hire? Thanks

Yes it is possible, but most recently, new hires are initially based in JFK

N927EV 05-29-2014 07:44 PM


Originally Posted by stormchaser11 (Post 1654440)
Yes it is possible, but most recently, new hires are initially based in JFK

And ORD is shrinking.

AVIATORCFI 05-29-2014 07:45 PM


Originally Posted by stormchaser11 (Post 1654440)
Yes it is possible, but most recently, new hires are initially based in JFK

Is the ORD base shrinking or people go to JFK because they want to?

AVIATORCFI 05-29-2014 07:49 PM


Originally Posted by N927EV (Post 1654441)
And ORD is shrinking.

Ok, thanks!

RJ Pilot 05-30-2014 05:11 AM


Originally Posted by N927EV (Post 1654441)
And ORD is shrinking.

Not according to the latest VAC bid. But we all know that one will get canceled too.:D

PilotJ3 05-30-2014 06:43 AM



Originally Posted by stormchaser11 (Post 1654440)
Yes it is possible, but most recently, new hires are initially based in JFK

Is the ORD base shrinking or people go to JFK because they want to?
JFK is the Jr base since BK when they made JFK and LGA co domicile. If you're in NYC you have to cover JFK and LGA.


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