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Thedude 05-03-2014 10:15 AM

What percentage of Eagle guys are still eligible (and will) for the flow through?

buddies8 05-03-2014 10:36 AM

everyone hired up to and including 11 October 2011.
that is up to each individual.
i would rather go to delta than aa.

snippercr 05-03-2014 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by Thedude (Post 1635621)
What percentage of Eagle guys are still eligible (and will) for the flow through?

All numbered guys have gone over.

They are going 20/month of the 824.

After that, anyone hired up to October 2011 ("protected pilot" group) is in a similar flow through of 35% of each class (824 if 50% but the company is choosing to meter instead).

After the protected pilot group (so anyone after October 2011) there are the preferential interviews. If you are in that group, you have some sort of preferential interview at AA. I do not believe there is an obligation to hire anyone interviewed.

MrObvious 05-03-2014 11:14 AM

You guys need to start writing up every airplane, sick outs, etc

satpak77 05-03-2014 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by MrObvious (Post 1635650)
You guys need to start writing up every airplane, sick outs, etc

While I understand some dissatisfaction, I also wonder how hurting the chicken whose egg's we rely on to feed us, accomplishes anything.

buddies8 05-03-2014 11:44 AM

that is why we have obama, so not to worry about wealth we will share in the wealth equally. screw the chicken

Thedude 05-03-2014 01:46 PM


Originally Posted by snippercr (Post 1635647)
All numbered guys have gone over.

They are going 20/month of the 824.

After that, anyone hired up to October 2011 ("protected pilot" group) is in a similar flow through of 35% of each class (824 if 50% but the company is choosing to meter instead).

After the protected pilot group (so anyone after October 2011) there are the preferential interviews. If you are in that group, you have some sort of preferential interview at AA. I do not believe there is an obligation to hire anyone interviewed.


Ok,
You still didn't answer my question.
I don't know how many eagle guys there are and Eagle has grown tremendously since 1997.

What percentage are eligible to flow through? Or even a rough number.

PilotJ3 05-03-2014 01:52 PM



Originally Posted by snippercr (Post 1635647)
All numbered guys have gone over.

They are going 20/month of the 824.

After that, anyone hired up to October 2011 ("protected pilot" group) is in a similar flow through of 35% of each class (824 if 50% but the company is choosing to meter instead).

After the protected pilot group (so anyone after October 2011) there are the preferential interviews. If you are in that group, you have some sort of preferential interview at AA. I do not believe there is an obligation to hire anyone interviewed.


Ok,
You still didn't answer my question.
I don't know how many eagle guys there are and Eagle has grown tremendously since 1997.

What percentage are eligible to flow through? Or even a rough number.
At least 2000 more.

Bzzt 05-03-2014 02:05 PM


Originally Posted by PilotJ3 (Post 1635722)
At least 2000 more.

The % is probably over 90, everyone up to Oct 2011 has a flow through and we didn't hire many past that point.

The Chow 05-03-2014 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by Thedude (Post 1635719)
Ok,
You still didn't answer my question.
I don't know how many eagle guys there are and Eagle has grown tremendously since 1997.

What percentage are eligible to flow through? Or even a rough number.

We're about halfway through the 824. Then the preferred pilots are supposed to be 30+% of all new hires classes. We're losing another 35-55 pilots per month.

I hope this helps.

TC


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