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Originally Posted by AdiosMikeFox
(Post 1807845)
Let's clear that up. This is a payout for the amendment round bonus we would have already gotten. People are calling it a bribe or a signing bonus, it's not either of those. If people here think it's a bonus for signing, they're not too bright, especially if they thought it was a good reason to sign for.
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I don't know what the recruiters are talking about, no new hire gets the payout.
Also, the signing payout likely worked against us as well. If people have a way out and they know they'll get a large sum, they'll vote yes, take the money and run. No reason to vote no, because then you don't get the cash. If the company was smart they would have metered the payout over a year, half each 6 months. That would've lowered the tax burden and made people stick around. Nope. Short sighted, as usual. |
Originally Posted by AdiosMikeFox
(Post 1807902)
I don't know what the recruiters are talking about, no new hire gets the payout.
Also, the signing payout likely worked against us as well. If people have a way out and they know they'll get a large sum, they'll vote yes, take the money and run. No reason to vote no, because then you don't get the cash. If the company was smart they would have metered the payout over a year, half each 6 months. That would've lowered the tax burden and made people stick around. Nope. Short sighted, as usual. |
There was/is a new hire signing bonus unrelated to the contract signing payout. Maybe that's what they were talking about.
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Originally Posted by skyxbomb
(Post 1807637)
Ha!! The OG of 4th year FO pay cap with no CX pay and barely any flight benefits? Is that the RAH you're referring to? Saying no takes spine... But what about knowingly working for such crap ops in the first place?
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Originally Posted by prex8390
(Post 1807891)
thats what the recruiters are calling it
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
(Post 1808091)
Do they also have a poster of an AA 787 cockpit on the wall behind them to mesmerize the tender young pups wandering into the interview room at Envoy ? :rolleyes:
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Don't come to envoy till lines improve.
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Originally Posted by prex8390
(Post 1808103)
lol, they werent as a bad as the Great Lakes guys, they were on the offensive going up to guys asking to see their resumes whether the person was interested or not, it was pathetic. They had also gone into classrooms, talked about how their company "kinda sucks but that we should all still apply there". It was baffling to say the least. Envoy just bragged about the 10k.
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2000pilots x $12,500 = 25 mill. The "credit" was slated to be worth 36 mill in contract improvements to make this a better place. The union agreed to say they were monetizing the credit but skimmed over the amount disparity. It was a bribe. Simple as that
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