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cr700 07-13-2016 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by PilotCrusader (Post 2160814)
I still can't believe you guys are thinking of coming here. Just like a G1000 Cessna, flying a shiny airplane will get old. It will get old even faster when you realize how owned you are.
The schedules her are worse than any other airline. I'm sure company half wit will come on and tell about how great their line is, but they aren't. I've been here over 20 years and have a 14 hour 4 day trip. Get real!

Here is what another person EL said, and they hit it right on the head:

Envoy is receiving new E-175 aircraft monthly. You may not be aware, but when a new aircraft type is introduced and the staffing is lower than optimal, you will likely have these types of schedules.

This scheduling anomaly will be worked out by next month or the following at the latest.

buddies8 07-13-2016 01:54 PM

Right because the,e175 was a,surprise when it showed up. Envoy and aag had 2 years to gear up staffing but oh well kh knows everything that requires screwing up an operation.

You know all the w/o combined monthly hiring cannot match skywest, why is that?

PilotCrusader 07-13-2016 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by cr700 (Post 2160818)
Envoy is receiving new E-175 aircraft monthly. You may not be aware, but when a new aircraft type is introduced and the staffing is lower than optimal, you will likely have these types of schedules.

This scheduling anomaly will be worked out by next month or the following at the latest.

Either reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, or you just chose to ignore the plight of the major side of your pilot force. Either way - Your panties are showing again. I'll stop now. My disdain for people like you, who care nothing for others, will only get me in trouble at this point.

PilotJ3 07-13-2016 02:37 PM


Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 2160764)
Envoy is "growing" with a shrinking pilot count ? Envoy is slated to shrink their fleet and considering their dwindling pilot count, the only wildcard is how much and how fast.

Delusion or denial, I haven't figured out where you're at yet. :cool:

The only problem is that Envoy it will cover TSA in LGA and PDT in PHL next month.

That's without including Mesa in DFW and RAH in MIA.

AAG is in trouble and they aren't doing things fast enough. Imagine how productive we could be if AAG decided to give the flight file first to ENy/PSA/PDT and the garbage to the other 8 NWO regionals.

But YOU GUYS wanted Horton out...now everybody is screwed.

Bigpimppilot 07-13-2016 02:41 PM

My understanding is that the equipment that's been at envoy for many years also has dumpy inefficient lines. What's your excuse for that?

PilotJ3 07-13-2016 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by Bigpimppilot (Post 2160843)
My understanding is that the equipment that's been at envoy for many years also has dumpy inefficient lines. What's your excuse for that?

Management excuse is that is the flying received from AAG.

AAG distribute first the good flying to the 8 NonWO carriers and then what's left to ENY/PSA/PDT, while it should be the other way around.

eaglefly 07-13-2016 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by PilotJ3 (Post 2160837)
The only problem is that Envoy it will cover TSA in LGA and PDT in PHL next month.

That's without including Mesa in DFW and RAH in MIA.

AAG is in trouble and they aren't doing things fast enough. Imagine how productive we could be if AAG decided to give the flight file first to ENy/PSA/PDT and the garbage to the other 8 NWO regionals.

But YOU GUYS wanted Horton out...now everybody is screwed.

Sorry, but I had no interest in Parker, this merger or the SLI.......at least under these terms. As for Envoy, it would be unrealistic for AA pilots to concern themselves with the plight of Envoy, so blaming your woes on us might feel good, but in reality, you need to blame your union leadership (past and present) for a series of hapless failures all based on the flaw of doing the same thing repeatedly expecting different results.

Envoy pilots are responsible for their present situation, period.

E175 Driver 07-13-2016 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by tall guy (Post 2160714)
Congrats and I hope you are correct about the G1000 background. I have roughly 400 hours in the G1000 teaching instruments. My only thing is mastering the FMS on the 175 or 145. I've never touched one other than on a old Aerosim desktop simulator we had to purchase back in college for a class I enrolled in.

From what Ive heard the FMS on the 145 is garbage. Its an outdated GPS.

PilotJ3 07-13-2016 03:21 PM


Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 2160860)
Sorry, but I had no interest in Parker, this merger or the SLI.......at least under these terms. As for Envoy, it would be unrealistic for AA pilots to concern themselves with the plight of Envoy, so blaming your woes on us might feel good, but in reality, you need to blame your union leadership (past and present) for a series of hapless failures all based on the flaw of doing the same thing repeatedly expecting different results.

Envoy pilots are responsible for their present situation, period.

So, in other words...you're saying that we should had voted Yes the first time in Dec 2013?

eaglefly 07-13-2016 03:35 PM


Originally Posted by PilotJ3 (Post 2160878)
So, in other words...you're saying that we should had voted Yes the first time in Dec 2013?

Yes to what ?


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