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458FS 01-01-2016 02:01 PM

Envoy will have to offer something other than a flow-through agreement to attract new hires.

145busdriver 01-01-2016 02:07 PM

SJS 175s? New base in MIA?

egl2fdx 01-01-2016 04:23 PM

Those numbers have to be depressing for ENY pilots. Good luck to them.

Nantonaku 01-01-2016 04:31 PM

The plan is to shrink 100 pilots?

458FS 01-01-2016 07:44 PM

I don't think a new hire that has 60k+ in loans will fall for the new shiny ejets or a satellite base in MIA. Management must raise pay or offer retention bonuses to keep pilots around. Keep in mind, Envoy will lose 90 pilots over the next 3 months to mainline.

RJ Pilot 01-01-2016 08:35 PM


Originally Posted by 458FS (Post 2038290)
Envoy will have to offer something other than a flow-through agreement to attract new hires.

iPads!

GoodLuck!

AdiosMikeFox 01-02-2016 05:09 AM

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billyho 01-02-2016 05:21 AM


Originally Posted by 458FS (Post 2038451)
I don't think a new hire that has 60k+ in loans will fall for the new shiny ejets .

They've been doing it for years without blinking an eye.

PilotJ3 01-02-2016 05:44 AM


Originally Posted by billyho (Post 2038529)
They've been doing it for years without blinking an eye.

This...

Only guys not new to the industry wants more money. Take in consideration that the average Commercial/CFI new to the industry is Single and 25/30k is the most they ever done. Usually they are happy and don't care as far as they are flying a LargeRJ (if is a carrier with 50 seater and 76 seater) or a jet (if is a carrier with props and jets, ex: PDT & Commutair).

977flyer 01-02-2016 06:04 AM


Originally Posted by PilotJ3 (Post 2038539)
This...

Only guys not new to the industry wants more money. Take in consideration that the average Commercial/CFI new to the industry is Single and 25/30k is the most they ever done. Usually they are happy and don't care as far as they are flying a LargeRJ (if is a carrier with 50 seater and 76 seater) or a jet (if is a carrier with props and jets, ex: PDT & Commutair).

Agreed but I think we can all agree that the pool of that kind of pilot is drying up fast.


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