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Here we grow again!
Envoy team –
As American Airlines CEO Doug Parker reiterated just last week in an employee meeting, the key to success in our industry is providing safe and reliable regional feed to American at a competitive cost.
Due to everyone’s hard work and Envoy’s terrific operating performance recently, I’m excited to share proof of that statement – as American has just added five additional aircraft to Envoy’s fleet, starting in May.
Work is already underway to reactivate three Embraer 140 (E140) that have been parked, in order to have them ready to begin flying the May schedule and beyond. Additionally, American will return two of the 16 Embraer 145 (E145) aircraft that are currently being operated by ExpressJet to Envoy, to ensure reliable support for the summer schedule.
The return of these five aircraft, in addition to the new Embraer 175 (E175) aircraft we continue to receive each month, sets Envoy on a positive and exciting path forward. After starting the year with 137 aircraft in our fleet,*we’ll be up to 150 by June.
All of these incremental aircraft are a vote of confidence in Envoy’s ability to deliver a safe and reliable product for American’s customers – and a testament to our team’s accomplishments. More aircraft also mean more jobs – as we continue to hire more than 300 Pilots and 400 Flight Attendants this year, we’ll also be adding Mechanics and other ground employees. And if we continue to perform as successfully as we have been operating, I’m confident that we’ll continue to see more opportunities in the future.
None of this could be possible without the outstanding team we have at Envoy. From the front lines to the back office, our employees are absolutely committed to the future of this company, and I am so proud of what we have achieved – and will continue to achieve – together.
Thank you for all you do,

Not even the tip of the iceberg...standby for more news in the coming months.

Grow , level off, shrink
The cycle continues


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Ya. How many planes did they have in early 2000? 220+?? 150 seems down. But good spin pedro...

couldn't post this is the 5 other envoy threads that are consuming this place?

Yes.... yes it does.

Now there's a guy you can trust.

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Might have been in the 300 range in around 2011 IIRC.

There it is haters. What do you have to say now?

More growth + not meeting hiring expectations= Less or stagnant flow.

Hiring 300 hundred pilots this year?

Good Luck!

What????? How is this good news for me???? The only number I care about is 4!!!!! That's how many people you were able to put into class last week.

You just need to stop posting... You do more harm than good. When you try to paint envoy as paradise, rainbows and unicorns it just makes everything you say sound foolish.

I have enjoyed my time here at envoy. I would advocate working for envoy only if you live in base. With that said the current reserve rules, length of time on reserve, and managements continuation of violating our contract is why I would not recommend people coming here if they have to commute.

True. I was here for 7 bases, 4 fleets and a lot more aircraft, but how does that apply to a new hire today? Fortunately for them, They don't have to live through the stagnation and shrinkage we did.

137 up to 150 is what applies to them. The trend is back upward right now.

Excellent spin. The only reason they are pulling 140s back online is that most of the ffd airlines can't accept additional flying requested by AAG ( this is the reason xjt is returning 2 EMB-145s. It's not because AAG was dying to give them back to Envoy). Of course they're going to spin it this way. Envoy is still slightly overstaffed so they can take what others can't right now. If it happened to be another airline that had pilots these airframes would go there and " insert airline here"_________ would put out a press release cheerleading that airline.

Nobody should be excited about more flying coming to any "regional".

Its not more flying coming to a regional. Its transferring flying back to Envoy (The real American Eagle for those of you who forgot)

Agreed.

Good Luck!

All this did was reduce the girth of a previously well polished turd - I do wish Envoy pilots the best of luck. I just don't see how the flow is going to materialize within the promised time frame unless Envoy can keep up with hiring throughout the entire timeline, and it sounds like they can barely fill classes right now. In the meanwhile, other regionals, which have no flow are still filling classes without an issue.

While not bad news, is the addition of 5 not so shiny 44-50 seaters going to produce the stampede to Envoy it claims it needs ?

Considering the present overstaffing situation, it might improve the schedules though. So far Envoy has managed to scrape up and shanghai 40 pilots through the first quarter (while losing 136) with all they can think of and if the goal is 300 for the year, they are HALF of where they need to be by now.

Thus, one must ask is this simply about meeting Summer flying goals or can Envoy truly move into the future without significant contraction ?

This latest "bombshell" really hasn't altered my outlook.

The things they are doing like this are really not philosophical changes about how pilots are viewed by management there IMO, they are developments that are designed to meet business needs and likely temporary. As such, while it does have potential to have ancillary benefit to some pilots, it isn't flushing that turd away to truly change the perception of the toilet in question by those who encounter it.

If Envoy is indeed at some form of significant disadvantage as it appears to be, that even the existence of a flow-thru cannot change, it would indeed appear to be that Envoy is in real trouble in the future as it's a reputation issue. That can only be corrected one way and it would need to be aggressive. As each month goes on and the other regionals without flows are running perhaps a couple of hundred pilots into their classes combined and Envoy gets a handful, if that, the well dries that much quicker and the pool shrinks significantly.

It's very possible that ultimately, it may be too little, too late and this time the game of "kick the can" has broken the foot of the can-kicker and although he can still stagger and hop forward, he'll eventually flop over or seek treatment.

I thought you were a "true believer" and follower of this guy's philosophy and a full fledged member of the Envoy Patrol?

With this announcement alone AND with a 3 to 4 month halt in flows from Envoy for Letter T returnees, I would expect December would be the last class Envoy would truly be able to flow 30, if they took that many for quite some time.

If this BIG ANNOUNCEMENT is even more frames, you may even see the flow restricted starting in October/November depending upon other attrition rates and also the ability to bring new hires in. Which obviously ain't happening in the numbers you need.

Looks like the SS Envoy is taking on water fast and it's starting to sink.

Big news better be them running separate classes for flows throughout the remainder of the year to make their flow targets. A few extra aircraft coming back aren't going to make enough room for the advertised upgrade numbers. I don't see anything on the horizon that will dramatically improve our schedules overnight.

Do tell what this fantastic news is going to be and how the company will manage to screw something else up in the process.

Would they merge all WO's again. Would that manage the bleeding??? I went through the first one. Dont wish that apon anyone...

Possible. But they'd lose a considerable amount of the ability to make us fight amongst ourselves over the scraps AAG hands out if they did.

Don't tell the PSA guys because they're a little butt hurt right now, but if they can't step up their game, CRJ700s are coming back to you guys.

Congrats on the news today, glad things are turning around for you guys!

I am still trying to figure out how your costs allow you to be competitive with Mesa, as Mesa operates on razor thin margins. Weren't you guys considered a "cost center", not a "profit center"?
Well in either case, it seams you have the same number of aircraft as Mesa, but about 600 more pilots than Mesa.
It very well could be about who has the most pilots, not about performance, or costs.

Continuing the flow even with Letter T pilots would indeed be pretty big news for those who would flow. But still, I don't see that as something tangible that would attract others. It would also mean faster contraction further impeding the almighty upgrade that pilots seem to chase the most.

I assume you mean PSA Managment is Butt hurt. Most of us pilots don't care and have no desire to step up our game. We all know that the sooner aircraft start to park, the sooner DP will do something to fix the situation, or we can all go to other airlines.

So take the 700s, heck take some 900s. It will be the Ceo and the DO that will be out of a job when it all ends, not the pilots.

Stopping the flow = bad press, continuing the flow in the face of adversity = good press.

Makes room for upgrades.

Makes ENY more attractive.

All the other carriers we hear so many bad things about are still able to attract new hires because of movement. We're still trying to pull our feet out of the mud.

No matter. I'm sure the news will be underwhelming. Well, maybe not entirely. The rumor on another thread here is a July bid for an MIA base. Great if you live there, but doesn't fix the other problems we have.

DWI Dougie in his 'you're my best buddy' crapola again. Next week it's Piedmont. everybody's gotta wonder if a lifetime under his horse5h1t is remotely worth it. If your projected flow is > 2 years, he'll find a way to screw you, count on that.

Haha hey dummy where are you coming up with a 3-4 month stoppage of flow? God you're just so clueless! Any single engine approaches or at Allegiant lately?! Everytime you post it makes me laugh at your terrible career planning...and THEN coming on here to try and give career advise! Too funny!

If "3-4 months" of Letter T deferral return is so out-of-whack as you insinuate, just what are YOUR prognostications ? Also, what do single-engine approaches have to do with the topic at hand ?

why are they pulling 140's from the desert? Couldn't be bothered to hook up to the 145 sitting next to it and get a couple extra seats out of it? even if it's not envoy's the leasing company would probably give it to them anyway

Actually AAG is planning on a 3 month stoppage of the flow May-July to accommodate returning furloughs.

By press, you mean forum posts? I doubt the media would care about regional pilots getting screwed.

I hate that you violate our contract every day with the preconfirmed RAPs. I hate that ALPA has a stack of grievances mostly all from this "new management". Respect our contract and then we will stop the hating.

more growth at envoy
 

Yes, I mean forum posts. The press isn't needed for this kind of advertising.

This and other places on the Internet is where prospective new hires get info. ENY recruiting probably has the email addresses of many flight schools and individual pilots who have expressed interest in the company.

If they incrementally keep increasing the gains available to the people looking at regionals they're going to hear MORE money, MORE new aircraft, MORE upgrades.

It works.

My God Envoy would need to announce 60-80 airplanes worth of growth to even make it close to the movement that is going on at other properties!!!!