4.5 and undetermined.

Yes, based on the current hiring trend of a single newhire and overall performance, that is the projection. Undoubtedly, this estimate can move in either direction, and it will do so.

The union places the blame directly at management's feet. Poor schedules, incorrect pay, lower first year pay, contract abuses, and the catch-22 environment surrounding flow/upgrade/hiring that company has created are all major factors.

Now that is gross. If the country only knew how their regional airline pilots were treated....

Envoy offering 300% OT
 

They don't want to know so long as they can buy their $129 round trip ticket.

Hey if you want to fly 737s and 747s, why don't you just apply at charter company's flying them and then apply to aa or delta etc. Skip that *******ed up flow envoy has? I mean hell Xtra Airways, songbird, sky lease, Miami air etc are all hiring. I wouldn't personally go to the last 2 myself though. But like you guys have said, look what others have to say about the company's before you buy into their crap.

I find it funny about 6 months ago I was looking into leaving Silver to go work for Envoy but after what I have been reading I am really glad I passed that one up.

More than half of the guys flowing in June are coming off of the CRJ, so staffing will be even worse on that :(

Cdl holder here as well and those cry babies should work a day in a warehouse somewhere and then have something to complain about

And Somali and syrian refugees eating dirt and drinking dysentery ridden water think truck drivers are cry babies when they ***** about a livable wage in the warehouse or conditions in an air conditioned truck.

this aint somalia and syria etc;

Exactly... Piedmont, Commut Air and Air Wisconsin all offer tons of money for picking up. Nothing new here.

Piedmont is 300-400% based on their need. You talk to some guys there and hear that CA are making 18,000/month and FOs are easily bringing in 5,000/month.

AWAC is always 150% but apparently you can bargain with their schedulers and they give incentives like an ipad drawing. Seems like 100hrs of credit there is really easy to come by.

Commut Air guys have been making waaaaay more than you'd expect based on their hourly rate too.

Sure does do away with Endeavors $20,000 sham. Sure hope applicants over there don't hear what you can make elsewhere before any bonus. Guys should do their research on what they'll actually make at each of these places with things like 300% pay included.

Endeavor offers 150% on anything over 85 hrs