Envoy or Republic?
11-27-2016, 01:58 PM
#41
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Originally Posted by knewyork
What makes you say the fleet will shrink? RAH has deliveries coming. And guys are leaving at a rate comparable to what flows are supposed to do, but with more variety rather than people going to 1 company.
11-27-2016, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by dl773
As if a flow is the end all be all for staffing, and nobody can staff without a flow. . . and that's a serious question? 
SkyWest can staff without a flow AND less pay.
SkyWest can staff without a flow AND less pay.
No one is saying RAH doesn't have a future, but if you look at the way things are going it will likely be that of a longer than new industry average upgrade and a slowly shrinking fleet.
11-27-2016, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
SkyWest is in a completely different situation than RAH with their west coast bases and is a much better ran company. They will likely gain more flying as some other regionals lose flying.
No one is saying RAH doesn't have a future, but if you look at the way things are going it will likely be that of a longer than new industry average upgrade and a slowly shrinking fleet.
No one is saying RAH doesn't have a future, but if you look at the way things are going it will likely be that of a longer than new industry average upgrade and a slowly shrinking fleet.
I was never great at math, but adding typically isn't synonymous with shrinking.
11-27-2016, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Flightcap
The big deal is lots of people on here want to jump on other folks' motivations if they don't exactly match a prescribed set of parameters. And the only people who get to set those parameters are the jumpers. Find the regional that best suits your quality of life and basing desires would be my input. If you don't mind early starts/late finishes, some of Republic's outstation bases have lower costs of living. We used to have some of the best pay out there, until the American wholly owned companies bumped their new hire bonuses. $40/hr and $12,500 (current 121) bonus is still a pretty good deal for your first year. End of the day, you probably can't go wrong. I personally think Republic is a better choice but I work here so take it with a grain of salt.
11-27-2016, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
SkyWest is in a completely different situation than RAH with their west coast bases and is a much better ran company. They will likely gain more flying as some other regionals lose flying.
No one is saying RAH doesn't have a future, but if you look at the way things are going it will likely be that of a longer than new industry average upgrade and a slowly shrinking fleet.
No one is saying RAH doesn't have a future, but if you look at the way things are going it will likely be that of a longer than new industry average upgrade and a slowly shrinking fleet.
They may not have the highest bonus or the best 2 yr pay like Envoy, but you'll make more money at Republic over a longer period. Envoy's pay doesnt look very nice between the bonuses and the upgrade, while their fleet seem to lose CRJs. I also have my doubts about the E75 options with Embraer.
And then there's the awful schedules as the cherry on top. That's a fair amount one has to put up with just for flow.
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11-27-2016, 06:23 PM
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The only negative about republic right now (from the outside looking in) is the bankruptcy. And even that situation seems to be going much better than people forecasted. Pay at RAH is good. I talked to a RAH guy who was looking at jumping ship to Envoy, and at six months he was holding 15 day off lines and 85 hour credit. I was two years in and 11 days off with reserve at 75 hr credit.
At this point I don't think you can make a wrong decision here. This isn't like should I go to Envoy or MESA. At this point if you go to any of the WO, RAH, Endeavor, or Skywest it would be hard to see it as a bad decision.
At this point I don't think you can make a wrong decision here. This isn't like should I go to Envoy or MESA. At this point if you go to any of the WO, RAH, Endeavor, or Skywest it would be hard to see it as a bad decision.
11-27-2016, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
Two things... 1) Your ability to staff in the next couple years. It will be intertwined with your ability to match or beat the WOs ability to attract new hires which isn't likely for you. And 2) The WOs have been losing more pilots outside of their flow (except maybe Envoy because they flow a ton of pilots to AA right now) to DA, UA, FDX, and UPS than they are flowing. Thebflows just mean all the more movement for new hires.
Say what you want about the 170, but it's the rj of the future and we've got a lot of them and more coming.
To those saying scheduling is better at RAH, I agree. I'm a year in and continually get 15 days off. 16 next month. 80 block, 86 credit. Results may vary but I'm not doing anything special to make that happen.
11-27-2016, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Pedro4President
The only negative about republic right now (from the outside looking in) is the bankruptcy. And even that situation seems to be going much better than people forecasted. Pay at RAH is good. I talked to a RAH guy who was looking at jumping ship to Envoy, and at six months he was holding 15 day off lines and 85 hour credit. I was two years in and 11 days off with reserve at 75 hr credit.
At this point I don't think you can make a wrong decision here. This isn't like should I go to Envoy or MESA. At this point if you go to any of the WO, RAH, Endeavor, or Skywest it would be hard to see it as a bad decision.
At this point I don't think you can make a wrong decision here. This isn't like should I go to Envoy or MESA. At this point if you go to any of the WO, RAH, Endeavor, or Skywest it would be hard to see it as a bad decision.
11-28-2016, 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by PleaseComplete
I'd say that's untrue.
There are obviously pilots at Republic that are happy and pilots that went to Republic that have went on to work at all the major and lcc airlines, including AA.
There are obviously pilots at Republic that are happy and pilots that went to Republic that have went on to work at all the major and lcc airlines, including AA.
11-28-2016, 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by kycfi85
I highly doubt you know many people that have went to AA off the street, as of recently . It's very rare.
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