Sure don't sound happy with your points above. Hope you make it out of prison (Envoy) to the work release program (AA).

I didn't sell myself short. I'm about to be sitting left seat in an Airbus and home every night making 150k a year. Guess it's how a person views things.

I guess it only takes less than a year. Wonder what's going to happen to retention when endevour pays lots more to draw our guys over. thanks for taking the time to list out just some of he contractual issues envoy pilots are having. You didn't even mention immediate step 1s for a bunch of guys with 4 sick calls in a year, or fatigue calls turning into missed assignments

Cool story, tell someone who actually cares (hint: it won't be on an envoy thread). Now run along child and let the adults talk.

You don't work for Allegiant and your backstory as an Envoy pilot is completely fabricated

Cool story from a special little snowflake about how you're gonna flow someday. I'll wave at you in your crummy RJ from the left seat of my Airbus.

From people that work at Envoy could someone answer a couple more questions? How does commuter policy work and how many do you get each year?

Also, what is the sick call policy? How many do you get before the company decides to head hunt you?

SkyLine, for a complete list of our current grievances, you would need to talk to a rep or the grievance chairman. But, off the top of my head, here are a few more:

Due to the company refusing to come to an agreement to make our CBA compliant with part 117, there has been the RAP 1 assignment issue, as well as the improper assignment of trips to reserves out of seniority order.

There are multi-day and 3rd JM assignments left and right. Refusals for illegal assignments in some cases are getting PG and MA codes.

Absence/sick/FMLA policies are being re-interpreted, without the company's own written policy manuals being changed to reflect these "new policies."

CS is giving PG codes when people don't answer the phone, and aren't required to.

The company deciding to no longer print paper bid packets is in fact a violation.

The bonuses given to new hires before the first day of class are a violation of our CBA, undermining seniority and pay rates. The Compass MEC grieved this and WON.

And that's just scratching the surface. One of the reps involved in these things daily could give a much more complete list. A lot of the violations right now revolve around Crew Scheduling getting creative with their interpretations in order to try and staff flights without adequate pilots.

You better get comfortable there. This is a small industry. I can personally guarantee you that you will never get a call from AA, DA, or UA, ever. Your doing, not mine.

I don't have the contract in front of me for the numbers, but basically you have to have two flights that can get you to work for sign in, and have been on the standby list trying to get on both, to be considered a "good faith" effort for the commuter policy. I'll have to look up the details for you later tonight.

Well, that has changed recently. Supposedly it's now 4 sick calls within a rolling 12 month period gets you a step one advisory. Unfortunately it's actual calls, and not a block of days, so if you're sick you just have to call out for the whole trip rather than individual days. The whole thing is rediculous, because sick time is part of the compensation negotiated in our CBA. If you burn more sick time than you have, you lose pay, so the company really shouldn't care, but it's just part of the screw tightening.