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Blackhawk 12-15-2017 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by Flogger (Post 2484071)
All of this is moot to the ATL and DFW side of the house. The ASA side of the house has been burned to the ground. Even if the XJT side somehow survives with a United deal, it will mean the end of DFW. Such a shame.

Probably, but DFW was shut down long ago when DAL left. The AAL thing was only temporary until Inc could cover it.
I do think there will be a TYS base. Not ATL, but closer than EWR.
The ERJ plan was based upon CRJ folks coming over to help staff UAL flying. After 1 Jan any remaining will probably leave. I’ve heard rumors of 300 turning in their 2 week notices.

blockplus 12-15-2017 01:22 PM

For $1.3b United could buy a controlling stake in inc. Insert officers and transefer xjt to uch then dismantle and sell the parts of skywest to the other regionals to recoup the purchace price. A non union entity would be easy to piece apart and sell.

AboveMins 12-15-2017 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by blockplus (Post 2484134)
For $1.3b United could buy a controlling stake in inc. Insert officers and transefer xjt to uch then dismantle and sell the parts of skywest to the other regionals to recoup the purchace price. A non union entity would be easy to piece apart and sell.

I'd celebrate with a nice stogie and a bottle of my best bourbon if UCH really did this. In reality, it's a pipe dream.

N1234 12-15-2017 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by blockplus (Post 2484134)
For $1.3b United could buy a controlling stake in inc. Insert officers and transefer xjt to uch then dismantle and sell the parts of skywest to the other regionals to recoup the purchace price. A non union entity would be easy to piece apart and sell.

Why would they do that? 1.3B would buy them 250 narrowbody jets ....

PontiusPilot 12-15-2017 07:13 PM


Originally Posted by N1234 (Post 2484302)
Why would they do that? 1.3B would buy them 250 narrowbody jets ....

To watch the world burn.

buddies8 12-15-2017 07:14 PM


Originally Posted by N1234 (Post 2484302)
Why would they do that? 1.3B would buy them 250 narrowbody jets ....

for fun and because they can, they did it to air wisconsin

Blackhawk 12-16-2017 05:56 AM


Originally Posted by N1234 (Post 2484302)
Why would they do that? 1.3B would buy them 250 narrowbody jets ....

As UAL is finding out, without smaller jets you don’t have the feed to fill up larger jets. The majority of those traveling on regional jets are going to larger jets. DAL and AAL have figured this out.
Normally the larger the jet the less cost per seat/mile, but the larger cost per leg. Meaning if that large jet is filled it kills on the route- which is why DAL regularly ran L-1011’s between ATL-MCO and I think they still occasionally run 777’s on that route. But if that larger jet is not past the break even point it really begins to cost, as UAL found out when they started running empty 747’s after the Asia traffic collapse.
Some city pairings will never be able to support anything larger than a regional jet. So it will either be that feeding or nothing.

HuntinFishin 12-20-2017 01:54 PM

Q: How many 175s does XJT fly
 
A: 0 One of the biggest takeaways I got from the article was how UAL wanted to be able to add more 76 seat jets but is limited buy pilot scope. However they are opening contract talks about getting relief to add more. So whatever is happening has no real benefit to XJT. I think stINC and UAL are talking but nothing that helps us XJT. XJT may have been in the discussion to the reporters only to create the illusion of hope. The passing of the all call with no statement public or otherwise reinforces my feelings in this.

DownInPetaluma 12-20-2017 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by HuntinFishin (Post 2486746)
A: 0 One of the biggest takeaways I got from the article was how UAL wanted to be able to add more 76 seat jets but is limited buy pilot scope. However they are opening contract talks about getting relief to add more. So whatever is happening has no real benefit to XJT. I think stINC and UAL are talking but nothing that helps us XJT. XJT may have been in the discussion to the reporters only to create the illusion of hope. The passing of the all call with no statement public or otherwise reinforces my feelings in this.



This. And it gave the stock a little boost...and investors more confidence.

Flyhayes 12-20-2017 06:36 PM

Not trying to throw any grenades here, but how do you guys foresee United being able to purchase ExpressJet when they are limited to only owning a minority stake (due to the UA flight attendant contracts). Would Skywest be interested in only selling a minority share of the company?


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