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Originally Posted by pilot90 (Post 2562712)

I can open my mouth whenever I want to

And Sydney/Will F thanks you for that.

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Originally Posted by Itsajob (Post 2563295)

You’re probably right, but United doesn’t have a shortage of applicants. The mainline pilots want to hold the line on scope, bring the flying back in house, and eliminate rather than protect much of the regional feed. If they were to buy 50 small airbus or 737’s they could park 125 of the small 50 seat jets. The existing 76 seat jets would serve the small markets and mainline would serve all hub to hub and other markets. The pilot shortage is going to make the current model of high frequency on small jets hard to maintain. I think we will see a transition to an operation with fewer flights on larger planes as a result. The mainline narrow body fleet will resemble a Southwest style operation used to feed the long haul flights. Mainline hiring will most likely increase, but each position created will be at the expense of 2 or 3 regional seats.

I wish things were as you said, but management at United wants relief scope to grow regional. Scott Kirby is trying to do that. Yeah you may argue that pilots and Union do not want scope relief. However, Let's see what would they say if company offered them 20 bucks per hour increases or so.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...meback-445701/

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Originally Posted by andili61 (Post 2563304)

I wish things were as you said, but management at United wants relief scope to grow regional. Scott Kirby is trying to do that.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...meback-445701/

I want to come home off of a trip and find my wife in the mood, I try to better my odds, but I really don’t expect it. Kirby does want more big jets. I think that he’d love to replace every 50 seater with a 76 seater. I also know that the United pilot group is tired. They have given concessions, had seniority adjustments with a merger, age 60 change, and years of stagnation. Mainline shrunk while the regionals mushroomed post 9/11. The pilots are saying no more. Kirby probably could buy us off, but bringing those planes to mainline or replacing them with small 737’s or 319’s will most likely be cheaper. Scope is a line in the sand issue over any other section.

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Originally Posted by Itsajob (Post 2563295)

You’re probably right, but United doesn’t have a shortage of applicants.

There ISNT a “probably” in his statement.

But you were correct, the CPP is working for them;

1) As a recruiting tool

2) Helps to stop already under staffed/poorly managed regional pilots form calling sick. Especially during the summer months, on their crappy 11/12 day off schedules non commutable 75 hr/300+ TAFB schedules. Month, after month, after month....

Can’t.....reach......carrot.....

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Originally Posted by Itsajob (Post 2563316)

Kirby probably could buy us off, but bringing those planes to mainline or replacing them with small 737’s or 319’s will most likely be cheaper. Scope is a line in the sand issue over any other section.

If it was cheaper, Smisek would have done it. Instead he just complained that regional feed “sourcing costs” have increased.

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Originally Posted by Bozo (Post 2563303)

And Sydney/Will F thanks you for that.

That doesn’t even make sense.

Itsajob, true on United not having a shortage of applicants.

But, retirements + mainline growth will require more than just the current applicant pool.

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Originally Posted by PhantomHawk (Post 2563371)

That doesn’t even make sense.

It's a CRJ inside joke.

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Originally Posted by Blackhawk (Post 2563393)

It's a CRJ inside joke.

I know exactly who you’re referring to. I just don’t think the comment makes sense.