Most JR Captain ERJ
 

Can anybody tell me who or what seniority number is the most junior captain on the ERJ currently? I can't seem to find an updated list with bid awards listed.

Most junior captain is at 68% seniority on the ERJ list. It's a September 2011 hire.

Has that person been through training or is it one of those things where they have been awarded the position with no class date set yet?

Holy @#$! 2011 Hire! I don't want to hear another L-XJT pilot complain a damn thing about the list integration. We have 2008 hires who are still earning junk FO pay.

Yeah lets not try to skew this to make it seem like upgrade will just get better. Any future upgrades are going to be back-filled by CRJ people. So the upgrade time is indefinite. DO NOT come here. As there are many better options out there with better pay and a rapid upgrade. Regional's were never designed to have topped out 10 year FO's. It's absurd.

Encouraging people to NOT come here will only prolong that upgrade time.

Perfect, encourage people to go to a less than desirable place for personal gain.

Yes, he is in class with me currently. We just finished the ground portion and start sims Wednesday

You people don’t seem to understand basic supply and demand fundamentals. Start with an economics textbook. Endeavor received their massive increases because the attrition was off the charts and they were experiencing impending doom. If you don’t have leverage you don’t have a position of power in negotiations.

The only people that actually matter, our negotiators, actually know this concept. And they have said it directly. The more people that leave and the more uncertain our future becomes, the better it is for the pilots. That’s why they haven’t jumped the gun on a new JCBA. Just patiently waiting.

While true you also need a company who is willing to step up and “show me the money”.

Will Inc or UAL step up us the question. Remember you are a subcontractor. Who owns EDV?

Says the Endeavor pilot who took concessions when XJT held the line and is now happy to be replacing the XJT pilots. SMH

[QUOTE=jacburn;2541896]Has that person been through training or is it one of those things where they have been awarded the position with no class date set yet

They all have class dates.

When will CRJ guys be able to bid the ERJ??

My guess is the day after Delta is done. Then management will complain to us we are too expensive cause half the airline is at home cause they can’t train everyone.

And as XJT took PQ tailed 900s from a pilot group forced into bankruptcy, hastening their predicted demise?

A new hire at XJT is a fish caught on survival string to be eaten by those pilots still clinging to a capsized airline. New hire fresh meat only prolongs the point at which cannibalism takes hold. Skywest and United don’t seem to mind this scenario. The best thing a prospective pilot can do is stay away from XJT, hastening the cannibalism thus hopefully forcing Skywest/United to step in and do the right thing whatever that is. Prospective XJT pilots, be merciful to current XJT pilots; stay away for your own safety, and pray for their survival!

You just asked a question and in such touched the Achilles heel of this airline...

Agreed. IMHO, regional pilots have always had very little leverage.
In most companies ( all business, not just airlines), management only reacts when it has to.

I respect that XJT pilots on here tell it like it is.

There are a number of pilots on the forums encouraging people to come to their regional, so they can move up, knowing that there are major issues, and sugar coating it.

Endeavor was in bankruptcy. Their option at the time were take concessions, have a judge impose concessions without the very few goodies the BK contract had, or die. Anybody that says this doesn't know what they are talking about.

I understand the criticism of PSA, but not Endeavor.

And round and round we go!

Yup and 2007 hires are sitting in upgrade right now big guy. I don’t blame them from complaining one bit, clearly now they have become the acquiring carrier.

I don’t want to hear a 1980’s hire moan cause they could have made a better choice to move on before I went to grade school.

Zzzzzzzing!

WTF?!?!?!?!:eek:

List integration wasn't fair? ..and then, somebody had the balls on the CRJ side to grieve your windfall wasn't enough. Enjoy the right seat buddy. You're MEC earned that for you during negotiations... when they refused to negotiate.

ASA MEC did not consult the pilot group about the grievance. I'd put real money down that 90% of the group had no idea it was even happening. I sure as hell didn't. I've got more important things to worry about. As for the merger, both sides F'd it up. We were exclusive and XJT was arrogant. And yes, we all know how Tony Cornhoser deserves to be hanged for his crimes so....it is what it is. ALPA has let us down once again. No surprise.

I'll start earning Capt pay in May and will be out in Sept. I'll take it in the chin until then. I'm used to it.

Hmm. There is no “grievance process” for seniority list integration. Only a dispute resolution process and that has to do with where you are on the list.

This place has been dead. Anyone have any updated rumors?

MRJ’s coming soon!

Thats when things happen.

Nothing since the last union call in. Attrition is still high. I’m sure it has “slowed”, but as a percentage probably the same. People who thought they would retire here are looking for options.
At some point the rumors won’t matter as we will reach a tipping point of unsustainability, at least on the CRJ side. And not even an attempt to recruit which speaks volumes.

I heard the CRJ is down to about 400 active pilots, any truth to that?

According to my math about 465 doing flying in April, but that number includes some who are out the door.

Mesa has the cpp now

What happens to the office staff in ATL? I have a friend in MX that left in JAN or Feb. Skywest should be tarred and feathered.

If they are not already gone they are cleaning out their offices or at least they were the last time I was there. The A-Tech is pretty much empty. The hanger portion has been taken over by DAL. It’s like a ghost town and very depressing. Those are the people I really feel for. The pilots can all get jobs. The support personnel, not so much. It’s pretty much what I told the pilots who advocated for burning it down it would be. The little people were hurt the most.
I avoid the crew lounge in concourse C. No reason to depress myself unnecessarily.
But it’s a lesson to all the other non wholly owned regionals right now. Don’t assume you can’t be Comaired.

Wasn’t Comair wholly owned?

Silly question but seems like all the other regionals junior captains are 2014, 2015 hire dates. Why is Express Jet so much longer to upgrade ? Do guys "love it" and therefore stay, is a lack of fleet growth happening , etc ?

thank you

You and I both know they were, but that was a different time. Now DAL and AAL seem to be keeping most of their flying in house. Everyone else is at their mercy.

It's called "downsizing" on the CRJ side. Many are trying to move on.