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Blackhawk 05-26-2019 12:29 AM


Originally Posted by JoeMerchant (Post 2826392)
Don’t worry about the FOM...learn how to fly the plane.

I wouldn’t go this far, but don’t get into the weeds with the FOM. Worry about the big stuff that concerned you as a pilot before and can bite you on line, such as knowing alternate requirements.

flynd94 05-26-2019 06:06 AM


Originally Posted by doug123 (Post 2826338)
Currently in indoc right now. I was wondering how much of the FOM should be memorized? Is it a good idea to spend most of the time during indoc week preparing for systems instead of studying indoc material?

Here’s my advice as a LCP. Be familiar with the FOM, nothing in it needs to be memorized. It’s source material, be able to find the information if asked.

Blackhawk 05-26-2019 06:36 AM


Originally Posted by flynd94 (Post 2826528)
Here’s my advice as a LCP. Be familiar with the FOM, nothing in it needs to be memorized. It’s source material, be able to find the information if asked.

For an oral? Sure. Real world you probably should have a few things memorized such as what I mentioned above. But that’s very little of it.

flynd94 05-26-2019 06:58 AM


Originally Posted by Blackhawk (Post 2826544)
For an oral? Sure. Real world you probably should have a few things memorized such as what I mentioned above. But that’s very little of it.

Nothing in the oral from the FOM, nothing should be memorized from the FOM. Just be able to locate the subject matter in a timely fashion. A lot has changed since you/I went through BI

Blackhawk 05-26-2019 07:50 AM


Originally Posted by flynd94 (Post 2826556)
Nothing in the oral from the FOM, nothing should be memorized from the FOM. Just be able to locate the subject matter in a timely fashion. A lot has changed since you/I went through BI

And much stays the same. ExpressJet, at least a year ago, had crews depart without a required alternate and thus less than the required fuel. In addition to the personal hazard doing so presents it also can present a professional hazard. Nothing like explaining a violation during an interview.

flynd94 05-26-2019 09:11 AM


Originally Posted by Blackhawk (Post 2826579)
And much stays the same. ExpressJet, at least a year ago, had crews depart without a required alternate and thus less than the required fuel. In addition to the personal hazard doing so presents it also can present a professional hazard. Nothing like explaining a violation during an interview.

And that is something that’s very simple to know and look up. Shame on that crew.

PhantomHawk 05-26-2019 09:31 AM

Here’s a thought......new guys should probably give more credence to the guy who actually still works there (flynd94) than the guys who linger and still think their advice is worth a $hit (Blackhawk and myself).

Blackhawk 05-26-2019 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by PhantomHawk (Post 2826635)
Here’s a thought......new guys should probably give more credence to the guy who actually still works there (flynd94) than the guys who linger and still think their advice is worth a $hit (Blackhawk and myself).

The advice I gave applies to any commercial operation, not ExpressJet specifically. There are some things you will use in day to day operations and should probably memorize. “1,2,3 rule” “1 approach 2 approach rule” come to mind. One will (or should be), looking at that every leg.

Blackhawk 05-26-2019 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by flynd94 (Post 2826622)
And that is something that’s very simple to know and look up. Shame on that crew.

Yes, it is simple to know. That’s my point. One should not assume nothing in an FOM needs to be memorized. That’s bad advice. In any commercial operation. But maybe it’s the advice those crews were given. “Don’t bother memorizing anything in the FOM.” Oops.

Erj135dude 05-27-2019 03:07 PM

New Indoc guys, how is it going :) enjoying so far?


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