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Originally Posted by DBono
(Post 2850798)
I think you're right about the long term strategy, but I think it will take a long time to play out. The thing Mesa has that XJT doesn't is a large stable of 175 pilots who are ready to fly tomorrow. It's going to take a long time for XJT to hire and train enough people to staff the 30 175's that are coming available for re-assignment now/soon. Mesa owns 18 of the 175's they are flying for UA out of IAH. 12 of the others have agreements in place through Dec 2023. So there are 30 that could be considered "in play" in the near term. Considering that more new 175's at XJT might just be replacing large CRJs from the UA fleet, I don't think the Mesa 175's are going anywhere soon, assuming Mesa can staff them.
The UAL 175s at MESA are on 5 yr cpas, only need 90 day notice to be returned to UAL. It doesn't matter what hub/base they are in currently. https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/d...709dex1095.htm Read page 9. The dates of the first 30 with the sch exit dates. |
Originally Posted by Texxx
(Post 2850841)
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/d...709dex1095.htm Read page 9. The dates of the first 30 with the sch exit dates. The key point is who has pilots to fly them at any given time. |
Originally Posted by Bluesteal
(Post 2850698)
There is no need for a flow... The whipsaw will always continue in the regional industry. In about a month or so Ual will announce another 40 175's going to XJT, Mesa contract will expire shifting planes over to Xjt and the bottom half of Mesa seniority list to leave Mesa for XJT, we are our own worst enemy. The whipsaw will always remain! Sad, but true.
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Originally Posted by Texxx
(Post 2850832)
Boy you haven't figured it out yet? You have 68 LRs and 29 XRs. They are transferring the XRs to C5 and gonna park the LRs and use those pilots to fly 175s.
XJT has the pilots for the 175s. |
The dumpster fire is still nice and hot at XJT.
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Originally Posted by Melit
(Post 2850905)
Close but no cigar! The next 25 175’s go to OO! Damn contracts always get in the way.
Besides, many others have pointed out that such agreements are commonly broken in this industry. SkyWest's 10-K has huge sections discussing how their contracts with mainline partners are subject to interpretation and disagreements about the interpretations are common, often ending in arbitration or litigation. We'll all know soon enough, I guess. |
Originally Posted by DirkDiggler
(Post 2851106)
The dumpster fire is still nice and hot at XJT.
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Originally Posted by DBono
(Post 2851604)
Has anyone actually seen the contract/agreement? All of the news reports that I saw said "dual-class" aircraft, which could include CRJ550's.
Besides, many others have pointed out that such agreements are commonly broken in this industry. SkyWest's 10-K has huge sections discussing how their contracts with mainline partners are subject to interpretation and disagreements about the interpretations are common, often ending in arbitration or litigation. We'll all know soon enough, I guess. |
Originally Posted by amcnd
(Post 2851655)
Well all we know is OO is sending 700’s to Gojet.. and not a peep about 550’s at OO... all the spare 700’s they could have used for 550’s will be at GoJet soon.
Go Jet is giving up some of their birds for Delta. At no point are they receiving any from OO (Skywest) |
Originally Posted by FlyRight2876
(Post 2852281)
What you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Go Jet is giving up some of their birds for Delta. At no point are they receiving any from OO (Skywest) |
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