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SureJetz 10-03-2019 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by PhantomHawk (Post 2897613)
He flew for XJT.

Ah. Is the guy in your sig pic the one who lied about being a firefighter at 9/11? Remember something sketchy with that guy.

drywhitetoast 10-03-2019 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by PhantomHawk (Post 2897613)
He flew for XJT.

Yep 20yr XJT guy. It took two tries to make it through the interview process. Passed hogan and bombed interview back in 2016. Waited over a year for the 2nd hogan and passed the second time. I think I took the first interview as more of a formality and it probably showed in the first interview. Treated the second one as an off the street interview.

That's why I lurk on this board. XJT was good to me for 20 years and I still care about my friends and former co-workers still there.

SureJetz 10-03-2019 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by drywhitetoast (Post 2897630)
Yep 20yr XJT guy. It took two tries to make it through the interview process. Passed hogan and bombed interview back in 2016. Waited over a year for the 2nd hogan and passed the second time. I think I took the first interview as more of a formality and it probably showed in the first interview. Treated the second one as an off the street interview.

That's why I lurk on this board. XJT was good to me for 20 years and I still care about my friends and former co-workers still there.

Congratulations for moving on. Hoping things get better here but they've deteriorated even more after the buyout by United and Subodh...

MooseAg03 10-03-2019 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by SureJetz (Post 2897615)
Ah. Is the guy in your sig pic the one who lied about being a firefighter at 9/11? Remember something sketchy with that guy.



Ahhh, that’s old Timmmmay. I can’t remember his last name, but he was caught lying in an interview and saying he was a Guard/Reserve fighter pilot in addition to a regional pilot.


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SureJetz 10-03-2019 12:04 PM

Ah, that was it. What a scumbag.

"The thousand word article is headlined, "Mature Beyond His Years" and discusses Martins' off-hours activities - flying F-16s for the New Jersey National Guard 177th Fighter Wing, firefighting with the New York Fire Department and volunteering at the food pantry in his hometown of Nesconset, N.Y."

Flying Lessons: ALPA and Airline Pilot Caught in a Whopper

SureJetz 10-03-2019 12:17 PM

Same guy I bet?

https://www.linkedin.com/in/timothy-martins-80a02968

DoSomePilotStuf 10-03-2019 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by airlinepilot50 (Post 2897469)
United should force Expressjet to fire all the Expressjet pilots that failed their interview. Why would you want a pilot flying under the United name if they are terrible people/pilots? They are flying the same United passengers and have the same responsibilities as a United pilot. Your logic makes zero sense.

Your logic makes zero sense you are acting like you are entitled to the job. I don’t blame United from trying to keep their pilots happier by keeping your attitude out of the cockpit.

airlinepilot50 10-03-2019 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by DoSomePilotStuf (Post 2897751)
Your logic makes zero sense you are acting like you are entitled to the job. I don’t blame United from trying to keep their pilots happier by keeping your attitude out of the cockpit.

I’m flying under the United name in a United owned aircraft so therefore, a United cockpit. I’m a pilot with the exact same responsibility as a United pilot. I have a clean record, and safely flew tens of thousands of people safely to their destination with a great attitude. I would say I deserve the job.

SureJetz 10-03-2019 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by airlinepilot50 (Post 2897783)
I’m flying under the United name in a United owned aircraft so therefore, a United cockpit. I’m a pilot with the exact same responsibility as a United pilot. I have a clean record, and safely flew tens of thousands of people safely to their destination with a great attitude. I would say I deserve the job.

This industry is like any other Multi-Level Marketing scheme/scam (Pyramid Scam). Pilots are forced to work for years being underpaid before being given an opportunity to move on and up the ranks.

The difference between American and United is American has you sign the dotted line and in return you operate provide them a service. United will have you on eggshells worrying about calling in sick, extending your duty day, worrying about calling out fatigued, etc.

This can all be avoided by hiring qualified and professional applicants from the start as American does.

The kids entering this profession aren't dummies. They don't want to be hoodwinked as others were here with the CPP.

PhantomHawk 10-03-2019 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by airlinepilot50 (Post 2897783)
I’m flying under the United name in a United owned aircraft so therefore, a United cockpit. I’m a pilot with the exact same responsibility as a United pilot. I have a clean record, and safely flew tens of thousands of people safely to their destination with a great attitude. I would say I deserve the job.

Well.....you’re probably old enough to have seen “Unforgiven”. Like William Munny said......”Deserve’s got nuthin’ to do with it”

Having said that....I would agree that you deserve the OPPORTUNITY for the job.


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