Hat vs. No Hat
10-29-2019 | 09:12 AM
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Agree. Many of us at mainline (L-Ual) don’t wear it. It represents a symbol of management harassment from the Tilton era, and as such, has become a relic of yesteryear. If you like it, wear it. But if you correlate your professionalism to your hat/lack of hat, may I suggest that your thinking is flawed. A better example of professionalism with respect to the uniform if the presence of an ALPA pin on the tie. Since it represents the profession, it’s a more appropriate symbol of professionalism, imo.
10-29-2019 | 10:23 AM
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Agree. Many of us at mainline (L-Ual) don’t wear it. It represents a symbol of management harassment from the Tilton era, and as such, has become a relic of yesteryear. If you like it, wear it. But if you correlate your professionalism to your hat/lack of hat, may I suggest that your thinking is flawed. A better example of professionalism with respect to the uniform if the presence of an ALPA pin on the tie. Since it represents the profession, it’s a more appropriate symbol of professionalism, imo.
10-29-2019 | 04:26 PM
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PLEASE DEAR GOD NO!!!!!!!
Prior mil guy here: pilots wearing the SS hats inside the terminal looks ridiculous (I'm looking at you Delta). As previously noted, if you want to look professional, wear a nicely pressed uniform, get a hair cut, and so forth. Personally I wish the FAA would ban them.
Prior mil guy here: pilots wearing the SS hats inside the terminal looks ridiculous (I'm looking at you Delta). As previously noted, if you want to look professional, wear a nicely pressed uniform, get a hair cut, and so forth. Personally I wish the FAA would ban them.
10-29-2019 | 07:06 PM
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Airlines aren’t the Army and Air Force.
The airlines “rank structure” and uniforms were based upon maritime structure where hats were worn inside.
Your airline FOM dictates uniform wear to include hats. Those that require hats normally say you must wear them when visible by pax. So you know what? Follow your FOM. Not AR 670-1 or some other military reg.
ExpressJet it’s optional. Wear it? Then follow the FOM on wearing a hat. Don’t wear it? You’re fine.
Personally, I wore one when required IAW the FOM. As soon as it became optional I ditched it. But if an FO wore it all the power to him/her. It was his choice.
The airlines “rank structure” and uniforms were based upon maritime structure where hats were worn inside.
Your airline FOM dictates uniform wear to include hats. Those that require hats normally say you must wear them when visible by pax. So you know what? Follow your FOM. Not AR 670-1 or some other military reg.
ExpressJet it’s optional. Wear it? Then follow the FOM on wearing a hat. Don’t wear it? You’re fine.
Personally, I wore one when required IAW the FOM. As soon as it became optional I ditched it. But if an FO wore it all the power to him/her. It was his choice.
10-29-2019 | 10:44 PM
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It doesn’t matter it’s not the military.
In 99% of the free world its considered bad etiquette to wear a hat inside unless it’s for religious reasons.
To the rest of the world wearing a hat inside is just as stupid as wearing your sunglasses inside.
The hat is a relic from the Panama Clipper days.
Aviation has many of its roots, traditions and nomenclature from the maritime world.
Airship
Air “port”
Flying boats
Nautical Mile
Starboard and Port
Captain and First Officer ranks
Crew position on the airplane
Navigation light positions
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and the hat.
In 99% of the free world its considered bad etiquette to wear a hat inside unless it’s for religious reasons.
To the rest of the world wearing a hat inside is just as stupid as wearing your sunglasses inside.
The hat is a relic from the Panama Clipper days.
Aviation has many of its roots, traditions and nomenclature from the maritime world.
Airship
Air “port”
Flying boats
Nautical Mile
Starboard and Port
Captain and First Officer ranks
Crew position on the airplane
Navigation light positions
.
.
.
.
.
and the hat.
10-30-2019 | 03:22 PM
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Yes the XJT badge is ridiculous. That said, who cares? Wear it. Don’t wear it. Some will think it’s stupid. Some won’t. You’re not here to impress everyone else, go with what you like.
Edit - My personal preference is not to wear it. In fact, if I flew 1000 legs at XJT, I wore the hat 0 out of 1000 legs.
I think it made it to my truck once then didn’t get out with me at the terminal. I certainly don’t gaf if others do or don’t.
Just one idiot’s opinion.
Edit - My personal preference is not to wear it. In fact, if I flew 1000 legs at XJT, I wore the hat 0 out of 1000 legs.
I think it made it to my truck once then didn’t get out with me at the terminal. I certainly don’t gaf if others do or don’t.
Just one idiot’s opinion.
10-30-2019 | 05:36 PM
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Being an ex mil guy I was ok with the hat. I didnt wear it at all in the Summer but took it on my last 4 day trip as it got a bit colder and I dont have much hair these days.
It was a pain! There is nowhere to put it and unless you want to carry it in your hand you have to wear it in the terminal. It doesnt fit well either.
Waste of time.
It was a pain! There is nowhere to put it and unless you want to carry it in your hand you have to wear it in the terminal. It doesnt fit well either.
Waste of time.
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