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For current classes / early 2020 what would APC's collective guess be from ATP-CTP to completion of IOE time wise? The news I hear about XJT is so varied it's hard to get a clear picture.

I don't care if I fly the 175 or the 145, I just want to be IAH based as soon as possible with a decent upgrade. SKYW had the upper hand recently with 2 year(ish) upgrades but my buddy said the new bid came out and they're doing 1k hour 145 CA upgrades in Houston.. which changes a lot, especially since it was 6+ years a few months ago.

Any feedback would be appreciated for training or general QOL. I know the Aviate program is still TBD and Letter 2 is as well. It could still fit my non-commuting goal and have 100 hr/month potential though. Thanks!

The lowest time upgrade is now 8 months. An April 19 hire. Obviously someone who came in with prior 121/135 time.

I would allow 4 months to end of IOE. May be sooner than that. Should be sooner but who knows.

The next up in seniority after the 4/19 hire who was awarded CA in the 19-06 bid was 13 months. My Classes training footprint was 3 months from Day 1 to LOE checkride. That included a week break between Basic Indoc and Systems, and a week break between PV and Sims. IOE will depend on how fast you get a feel for the airplane and can put all the pieces together.

From 7 years to potential street captains in 2020. This industry changes on a dime.

No language in the contract for street captains...

The revised 19-06 bid was to combat any negative press from XJT losing out on the 20 175’s Mesa got awarded the day prior.

You may want to read the latest correspondence from the the v.p.

They can bring you in as an FO and then switch you to CA while you are in indoc. Doesn’t have to be in the contract.

Without violating seniority?

It will probably be done via a system bid. If F/Os who are more senior and are qualified to be a captain choose not to bid it, they will fill those slots with whoever is qualified and chose to bid those positions. That could mean a new hire still in indoc.


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They need more CAs than are willing or eligible. So yes