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Melit 02-29-2020 06:06 AM

And the XJET board is the only one that Constantly bashes other pilot groups like Skywest Mesa and Gojets. Karma got you. Piece ✌️

BusBoy88 02-29-2020 07:21 AM


Originally Posted by Melit (Post 2986415)
And the XJET board is the only one that Constantly bashes other pilot groups like Skywest Mesa and Gojets. Karma got you. Piece ✌️

How's your career progressing Melit? Any more lateral moves ?

Cessna182TypeR 02-29-2020 07:33 AM


Originally Posted by DoSomePilotStuf (Post 2986237)
Lol extra FOs ok. You keep those golden nuggets of wisdom coming there big boy. We will have CAs flying right seat in the 175 as soon as next week. Too many FOs is part of the reason for this. LOL That’s rich.


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One of your many posts saying it was over overstaffed:




Quote:
Originally Posted by lauree
How long are people sitting on reserve these days?

DoSomePilotStuf:

“I have a slightly different view. If you get the 175 expect long reserve with not a ton of flying. It is now a small over staffed fleet with no growth opportunity.”

LoL:)

DoSomePilotStuf 02-29-2020 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by Melit (Post 2986407)
But it is a big deal. When it was announced that United awarded ManAir 25 175’s this board blew up and claimed XJET was the place to be. Some of you went as far as saying that you were going to take MESA’s 175’s within the next year . Take a look back . When United and continental merged that was the downfall of XJET.



As I said, it’s not a big deal TO ME. I didn’t come to fly the 175. Perhaps you left to fly it? Then got you feelbads hurt when it showed up here? Either way I am happy at XJT and if anything this may work to my advantage if it spurs the company to the negotiating table. Rumors are there are negotiations happening now.

Cessna182TypeR 02-29-2020 07:57 AM


Originally Posted by DoSomePilotStuf (Post 2986461)
As I said, it’s not a big deal TO ME. I didn’t come to fly the 175. Perhaps you left to fly it? Then got you feelbads hurt when it showed up here? Either way I am happy at XJT and if anything this may work to my advantage if it spurs the company to the negotiating table. Rumors are there are negotiations happening now.


Just responding to another one of your belittling responses. Keep putting your foot in your mouth and don’t put words in mine.

I’m on the 145 and didn’t come for it either.

Keep showing how Aviate knows how to pick em....

Melit 02-29-2020 08:04 AM


Originally Posted by DoSomePilotStuf (Post 2986461)
As I said, it’s not a big deal TO ME. I didn’t come to fly the 175. Perhaps you left to fly it? Then got you feelbads hurt when it showed up here? Either way I am happy at XJT and if anything this may work to my advantage if it spurs the company to the negotiating table. Rumors are there are negotiations happening now.

How would it work to your advantage?

Melit 02-29-2020 08:13 AM


Originally Posted by BusBoy88 (Post 2986448)
How's your career progressing Melit? Any more lateral moves ?

doing great busboy thanks..

spacecadet 02-29-2020 08:25 AM


Originally Posted by Melit (Post 2986415)
And the XJET board is the only one that Constantly bashes other pilot groups like Skywest Mesa and Gojets. Karma got you. Piece ✌️

you're consistently the most negative person on this board and seem to spend all your free time picking fights over here, but, please, continue your lecture on how the XJT pilot group is a big bunch of meanies
Peace.* ✌️

PeakEGT 02-29-2020 08:30 AM

Doesn’t matter who was awarded what and who gets blue tail 175s, the biggest downside is that a pilot group is out of a job. Second to that is the leverage we gained from being awarded more flying because of it. I have friends at every regional that said they’re having trouble with staffing extra flying. Focusing on us alone you think we can absorb those TSA routes, retrain, and train for growth? All while, the union says wait till October. This had to be precedented, December 12 was the original Letter 2 expiration, and our company and the puppet master UA said they have it under control. I’m not the one to say our company is the best because I’ve been ok with flying, short reserve and so on. But swift action
Is needed in order to secure whatever we have.

Melit 02-29-2020 08:34 AM


Originally Posted by spacecadet (Post 2986496)
you're consistently the most negative person on this board and seem to spend all your free time picking fights over here, but, please, continue your lecture on how the XJT pilot group is a big bunch of meanies
Peace.* ✌️

Just pointing out facts my man..Read some of the threads..

DoSomePilotStuf 02-29-2020 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by Melit (Post 2986484)
How would it work to your advantage?



Like I said we may be receiving some significant compensation

DoSomePilotStuf 02-29-2020 08:50 AM


Originally Posted by Cessna182TypeR (Post 2986480)
Just responding to another one of your belittling responses. Keep putting your foot in your mouth and don’t put words in mine.



I’m on the 145 and didn’t come for it either.



Keep showing how Aviate knows how to pick em....



Oh yeah they should’ve picked you for sure bwahahaha!

Cessna182TypeR 02-29-2020 09:09 AM


Originally Posted by DoSomePilotStuf (Post 2986517)
Oh yeah they should’ve picked you for sure bwahahaha!

Keep slinging mud. Not going to go back and fourth with you in some immature argument.

sMFer 02-29-2020 09:24 AM

Guys. Not at XJT...but just ignore Melit. He's a regional lifer, living in moms basement who spends his days bashing other airline pages that he couldn't get hired at. He's best to be described as a loser, a dirty diaper, etc..

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Cessna182TypeR 02-29-2020 09:25 AM


Originally Posted by spacecadet (Post 2986496)
you're consistently the most negative person on this board and seem to spend all your free time picking fights over here, but, please, continue your lecture on how the XJT pilot group is a big bunch of meanies
Peace.* ✌️

He’s a troll of more than just this forum. He was causing problems on the Compass board too. He can dish it but not take it back. Guy complained to the mods because he couldn’t take a meme or two at his own expense.

Poor thing.

https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/c...derdome-2.html

minimumss 02-29-2020 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by DoSomePilotStuf (Post 2986515)
Like I said we may be receiving some significant compensation

What kind of new compensation you think Xjt pilots will be getting?

Cessna182TypeR 02-29-2020 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by sMFer (Post 2986540)
Guys. Not at XJT...but just ignore Melit. He's a regional lifer, living in moms basement who spends his days bashing other airline pages that he couldn't get hired at. He's best to be described as a loser, a dirty diaper, etc..

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Hit the nail on the head^

Cessna182TypeR 02-29-2020 09:27 AM


Originally Posted by minimumss (Post 2986545)
What kind of new compensation you think Xjt pilots will be getting?

No clue, only time will tell. Management has only asked for concessions up until now. My only guess is they’ll ask for PBS or something else in return. No way it’s all gives from the company.

SeeYa 02-29-2020 09:56 AM


Originally Posted by Cessna182TypeR (Post 2986549)
No clue, only time will tell. Management has only asked for concessions up until now. My only guess is they’ll ask for PBS or something else in return. No way it’s all gives from the company.

ACARS notification

Cessna182TypeR 02-29-2020 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by SeeYa (Post 2986574)
ACARS notification

Probably a given they’d want that. Not under the interpretation that it’d be a one way street.This only seems to be a big issue if people are getting their day rolled at the end of a trip by ACARS. Otherwise not a huge deal IMO.

Melit 02-29-2020 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by Cessna182TypeR (Post 2986543)
He’s a troll of more than just this forum. He was causing problems on the Compass board too. He can dish it but not take it back. Guy complained to the mods because he couldn’t take a meme or two at his own expense.

Poor thing.

https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/c...derdome-2.html

c’mon man. I never said anything to a mod. If you think I get worked up over the Internet you need an evaluation. Go ahead and make a meme..This is just entertainment since I don’t do Facebook!

Flydafe 02-29-2020 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by DoSomePilotStuf (Post 2986461)
As I said, it’s not a big deal TO ME. I didn’t come to fly the 175. Perhaps you left to fly it? Then got you feelbads hurt when it showed up here? Either way I am happy at XJT and if anything this may work to my advantage if it spurs the company to the negotiating table. Rumors are there are negotiations happening now.

facts... flew a Union guy to to DC on the first flight. Was yapping the whole way about all of this

Flydafe 02-29-2020 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by Cessna182TypeR (Post 2986549)
No clue, only time will tell. Management has only asked for concessions up until now. My only guess is they’ll ask for PBS or something else in return. No way it’s all gives from the company.

I kinda recall that union guy saying pbs isn’t coming due to the IT situation but they have moved from just letter 2 talks to money and pilots keeping their seniority from other ux carriers. Something like that. Also worth noting is that he was speaking of being a training center supplier for the industry.

Cessna182TypeR 02-29-2020 10:32 AM


Originally Posted by Flydafe (Post 2986589)
I kinda recall that union guy saying pbs isn’t coming due to the IT situation but they have moved from just letter 2 talks to money and pilots keeping their seniority from other ux carriers. Something like that. Also worth noting is that he was speaking of being a training center supplier for the industry.

Keeping longevity seems to be industry standard. Seniority would be different. Think the TSA guys would be given standard seniority numbers by date of hire at XJT.

Can you explain the last sentence more?

Cessna182TypeR 02-29-2020 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by Melit (Post 2986586)
c’mon man. I never said anything to a mod. If you think I get worked up over the Internet you need an evaluation. Go ahead and make a meme..This is just entertainment since I don’t do Facebook!

Not based on the fact the “Revenge of the Sit” thread is gone and based on the comments from the Compass guys.

You’re a boring troll.

Melit:

“suggesting I’m a sexual predator you should be banned!”

https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/c...ml#post2979074

Workhard 02-29-2020 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by Cessna182TypeR (Post 2986600)
Not based on the fact the “Revenge of the Sit” thread is gone and based on the comments from the Compass guys.

You’re a boring troll.

Melit:

“suggesting I’m a sexual predator you should be banned!”

https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/c...ml#post2979074

😂 not even a xjt pilot but here to watch the demolishing of the troll and lifer known as Melit.

CPPfacts 02-29-2020 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by Flydafe (Post 2986589)
I kinda recall that union guy saying pbs isn’t coming due to the IT situation but they have moved from just letter 2 talks to money and pilots keeping their seniority from other ux carriers. Something like that. Also worth noting is that he was speaking of being a training center supplier for the industry.

They better not keep their seniority. This isn’t a merger. Longevity is fine.

DoSomePilotStuf 02-29-2020 11:25 AM

How ALL OF THIS went down
 
Agreed. Them keeping seniority only benefits the company and not our pilot group. Our Union should be fighting this tooth and nail. Us giving them seniority can’t even be in a contract can it? I’ve never heard of anything like that at all. Just because big daddy United asks us to do it doesn’t mean our MEC should just roll over.

SeeYa 02-29-2020 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by Flydafe (Post 2986589)
I kinda recall that union guy saying pbs isn’t coming due to the IT situation but they have moved from just letter 2 talks to money and pilots keeping their seniority from other ux carriers. Something like that. Also worth noting is that he was speaking of being a training center supplier for the industry.

uh them keeping seniority isn’t going to happen

StuckOnReserve 02-29-2020 11:49 AM

How ALL OF THIS went down
 

Originally Posted by Flydafe (Post 2986589)
I kinda recall that union guy saying pbs isn’t coming due to the IT situation but they have moved from just letter 2 talks to money and pilots keeping their seniority from other ux carriers. Something like that. Also worth noting is that he was speaking of being a training center supplier for the industry.


Are you referring to the MEC’s email on 2/24?

It didn’t say anything about TSA pilots retaining seniority. All that was said was

“For this reason, we also developed a plan to accommodate the pilots from the airline impacted by this announcement. We will announce that plan after we've had a chance to address the pilot leaders at that airline.”

They can keep their longevity and position on the pay scale, they can even have the first chance for DEN. But to merge them into the seniority list? Absolutely not. They are placed on the list the day they start INDOC with that date of hire.

That would start a recall vote on the MEC if they were placed on the list above any current XJT pilot.

This isn’t a merger


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Southern Fried 02-29-2020 12:31 PM

I agree, not a merger. Longevity is fine. I have nothing against the TSA pilots. Management needs to pay up because this is their deal. They are doing this to the airlines/employees. Our pilots should not lose anything after the dust settles.
Also,
My list of improvements is long.
PBS = Big Money in our new contract or it's a NO vote. To get a yes from me it means we will have industry leading pay, by far. Management needs to bring something monumental to the table if they want it to pass. I basically don't care about management's issues at this point. I'm tired of our pilot group getting the shaft. Make me happy or it's a NO.

CPPfacts 02-29-2020 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by Southern Fried (Post 2986659)
I agree, not a merger. Longevity is fine. I have nothing against the TSA pilots. Management needs to pay up because this is their deal. They are doing this to the airlines/employees. Our pilots should not lose anything after the dust settles.
Also,
My list of improvements is long.
PBS = Big Money in our new contract or it's a NO vote. To get a yes from me it means we will have industry leading pay, by far. Management needs to bring something monumental to the table if they want it to pass. I basically don't care about management's issues at this point. I'm tired of our pilot group getting the shaft. Make me happy or it's a NO.

I’m hearing we aren’t going to get to vote on it.

Southern Fried 02-29-2020 12:46 PM


Originally Posted by CPPfacts (Post 2986664)
I’m hearing we aren’t going to get to vote on it.

no vote = RECALL

Melit 02-29-2020 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by Workhard (Post 2986603)
😂 not even a xjt pilot but here to watch the demolishing of the troll and lifer known as Melit.

Define demolishing? Since you are here to “watch” it

Workhard 02-29-2020 02:03 PM


Originally Posted by Melit (Post 2986706)
Define demolishing? Since you are her to “watch” it

everyone pulling facts out on you and you back pedaling like usual. Don’t get bitter with me because you poked at them and they attacked back... and now you trying to find someone else to attack.

BRJPilot 02-29-2020 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by SeeYa (Post 2986634)
uh them keeping seniority isn’t going to happen

Wanna bet on that?

CPPfacts 02-29-2020 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by BRJPilot (Post 2986786)
Wanna bet on that?

Yeah I am hearing some very disturbing things from people who are involved in negotiations.

SeeYa 02-29-2020 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by BRJPilot (Post 2986786)
Wanna bet on that?

no TSA pilot will jump any XJT pilot on the seniority list

afterburn81 02-29-2020 06:21 PM

Guys crack me up. Haven’t heard one word of disapproval about flying the airframes that would be coming from a dismantled airline. In fact, the company is touting this as “growth”. Another guys job. His income to pay for his family to eat. Meanwhile we are on here commenting about his this is good for us (justifying the loss of EJETS). Then we have the audacity to strongly oppose any list integration.


So you’ll gladly take their aircraft. But get to the back of the line buddy! Some good ole fashion union brotherhood here. Cut throat city if you ask me.

CPPfacts 02-29-2020 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by afterburn81 (Post 2986830)
Guys crack me up. Haven’t heard one word of disapproval about flying the airframes that would be coming from a dismantled airline. In fact, the company is touting this as “growth”. Another guys job. His income to pay for his family to eat. Meanwhile we are on here commenting about his this is good for us (justifying the loss of EJETS). Then we have the audacity to strongly oppose any list integration.


So you’ll gladly take their aircraft. But get to the back of the line buddy! Some good ole fashion union brotherhood here. Cut throat city if you ask me.

I don’t really disagree with you, but these aircraft were ours that were sent to other carriers. In reality they are just coming back after we shrank.


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