How ALL OF THIS went down
 

Stole this from an individual Pilot Group FB page:

Now for the good news how this went down and more good news to come.

TransState (Hulas) tried selling his airline to Republic and Kirby stopped the transaction. Kirby's plan was grow GOJets (owned by Hulas) with the conversion of CRJ-700 to CRJ-550's because of the United scope clause. Kirby knew Compass (owned by Hulas) was done by this years because of the Delta ending Compass contract and American going to take back their E-175's. Everyone at Envoy thought they were getting those airplanes and a new LAX base. But Skywest sneeked in and acquired the AA planes in early Feb. Hulas is in his mid 80's and wants out. His children didn't want the airline. Kirby is trying to streamline the United Express carriers like he did at AA. ExpressJet losing the E-175 contract to Mesa was enough to suggest that ExpressJet couldnt compete in the eyes of United management with the scale of Mesa and Skywest E-175 program despite being owned by United. The scope issue with the UAL pilots was easy to solve by buying XJT and then merging and buying as many as you want. But that would have raised costs and gave the pilots leverage. Now partly owned UAL express carriers have no large RJ's and no leverage. Mesa was able to cut their deal because they had CRJ-700 to give to GOJets. Skywest will be able to cut their deal with GOJets and get the remaining new E-175 from United. GOJets when they complete all the conversions from SKYW and Mesa will probably operate those planes until each one times out D check. The only choice United had was to move the remaining E-145's from TransState to XJT. Later all Air Wisconsin CRJ-200 flying will get parked and E-145 will replace it. That will be ExpressJet doing it. I expect the XJT and CommuteAir merger after the absorbing of TransState. Skywest has CRJ-200 that will get parked as well but SKYW owns them. That will get replaced with E-145. I expect ExpressJet/CommuteAir will eventually have 90% 50 seaters to United mainline aircraft. After the Boeing and Embraer merger gets approved, new E-145 are coming our way to replace the older ones and park the CRJ-200's in the United system. Thats why Skywest is scrambling to cover all the CRJ product to dump it. Parts are going to get expensive when Mitsibishi charges more because they bought Bombardier last year. ExpressJet doesnt have any money to buy anything nor or we a public corp with issued stock to buy anything. We operate for United and we got lucky to get away from SKYW and we got lucky United favored us over Hulas. So we have to grow...we are forced to grow...and I like that because I can finally see what I like...it's called "some stroke"!

Vic, you’re not doing yourself any favors, nor the rest of us. Stop already and go back to your B737-145, mmkay? Social media will catch up with you. Internet is forever.

Skywest's 20 175's for AA are new builds that Skywest owns. Not the compass planes.

A lot of that is factually inaccurate.

Exactly. 20 Compass 175s are 100% slated for Envoy.

Nice try brah. Sure, the article is correct. But what it doesn't say is that the 20 175s operated by Compass ARE OWNED BY AMERICAN.

can you not do your schtick right now?

LOL! Looks like he’s no longer on the 73 since getting called on it yesterday.

Please share source.

you’re asking a lot.

Don't know what you mean by "schtick." The poster simply posted a reference to an article but it did not address that AMERICAN owns the 20 175s currently flown by Compass. As you may or may not know, that contract is up this year. You may have seen speculation that these will be coming to Envoy and may include an LAX base. I'm simply stating facts here.

How ALL OF THIS went down
 

Speculation means nothing. Sure Envoy is the logical choice for those jets in the he minds of Envoy pilots, but AA can put them wherever they want. Don’t be surprised if when the contract is up those 175’s wind up at Skywest, Republic, or Mesa (long shot but a possibility).




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Regardless of where any of these airplanes go.. how will these frames be staffed if any of these airlines are having difficulty staffing their current feed not accounting for growth? Also the big 3 Mesa Sky and Repub fly for other partners. What if one of their other mainline partner ask them to fly more for them for more money? Summer is coming and it’ll be interesting to see how staffing plays in to this situation

We are about to see a lot of shake up in 2020 at the regional level. United is late to the party so there feeders are feeling it first.

I think Endeavor will be ok. So basically what you are saying is the exclusive United carriers are in trouble. Surely United is figuring this out and will take steps to correct the problem.

Surely you jest. 😂

Yes, Endeavor is a Delta wholly owned company. They will be just fine.

...just like Comair!

That was pre 1,500 hr rule / actual pilot shortage.

"I'm simply stating the fact that I'm speculating."

United carriers are going to struggle to get through this. As the planes move the staffing will lag behind and any pilot that can move out of the regionals will take that opportunity while in flux. This will hopefully lead to an overall pay raise for all the regionals as they compete for all of the pilots that will become unattached.

Not like Comair. There had been bad blood between Delta and Comair since the strike.

There’s a big carrot coming. I don’t think UAX carriers, specifically XJT, are going to have any issue staffing when this all plays out.

HAHA! I heard that for 10 years. Time to GTFO.

Endeavor already when though this same mess. Except it was called Pinnacle/Mesaba/Colgan at one point which had 3,000+ pilots.

Bet they're going to announce it any day now. :rolleyes:

I have no idea what United is thinking. C5 is increasing block hours n drastically increasing IAD operations while maintaining same hours at ewr per the company conference call today. They are also redoing our interiors of our 145s like xjt.

How? C5 is short of captains too.

who knows. That’s what we asked. They have a lot of upgrades coming this year per the company (if they stay) along with the DEC. but. We are scratching our heads.

you’ve been on this board since 2010 and are saying this? Lol

I mean, I hope something good is coming for us XJT guys

Does anyone actually believe they’re going to dust off the EMB-145 Assembly line and start producing new models of a plane passengers hate? If a new 50 seater comes it will most certainly have two rows on each side, a cabin over 6 feet tall and overhead space.

Skywest is actively pulling CRJ-200’s out of the desert. They aren’t going anywhere anytime soon.

We weren’t “lucky” to lose our 175 fleet to SkyWest. This has nothing to do with United favoring us over Hulas. TSA simply went out of business and United shifted flying to make us an all 145 carrier.

We had a bunch of extra FO’s stuck on the 175 after Mesa was awarded the last batch of planes. Going to one fleet makes us more efficient in theory. That is if people don’t just hit the exits.

all of of this is spot on.

Lol extra FOs ok. You keep those golden nuggets of wisdom coming there big boy. We will have CAs flying right seat in the 175 as soon as next week. Too many FOs is part of the reason for this. LOL That’s rich.


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What are you talking about?

In ORD for March they didn’t even build any relief lines because they are so short FOs on the 175

just flew a three day trip with a captain in the right seat on the 175 out of Houston. I was surprised

Don’t worry about it. Stick to the 145’s.

Not a big deal to me. I choose to focus on the positive. One thing I would never do is go after the pilots of a former airline because I was unhappy about the way the place was managed. What exactly do the pilots have to do with your experience?

But it is a big deal. When it was announced that United awarded ManAir 25 175’s this board blew up and claimed XJET was the place to be. Some of you went as far as saying that you were going to take MESA’s 175’s within the next year . Take a look back . When United and continental merged that was the downfall of XJET.