How ALL OF THIS went down
02-25-2020, 01:28 AM
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How ALL OF THIS went down
Stole this from an individual Pilot Group FB page:
Now for the good news how this went down and more good news to come.
TransState (Hulas) tried selling his airline to Republic and Kirby stopped the transaction. Kirby's plan was grow GOJets (owned by Hulas) with the conversion of CRJ-700 to CRJ-550's because of the United scope clause. Kirby knew Compass (owned by Hulas) was done by this years because of the Delta ending Compass contract and American going to take back their E-175's. Everyone at Envoy thought they were getting those airplanes and a new LAX base. But Skywest sneeked in and acquired the AA planes in early Feb. Hulas is in his mid 80's and wants out. His children didn't want the airline. Kirby is trying to streamline the United Express carriers like he did at AA. ExpressJet losing the E-175 contract to Mesa was enough to suggest that ExpressJet couldnt compete in the eyes of United management with the scale of Mesa and Skywest E-175 program despite being owned by United. The scope issue with the UAL pilots was easy to solve by buying XJT and then merging and buying as many as you want. But that would have raised costs and gave the pilots leverage. Now partly owned UAL express carriers have no large RJ's and no leverage. Mesa was able to cut their deal because they had CRJ-700 to give to GOJets. Skywest will be able to cut their deal with GOJets and get the remaining new E-175 from United. GOJets when they complete all the conversions from SKYW and Mesa will probably operate those planes until each one times out D check. The only choice United had was to move the remaining E-145's from TransState to XJT. Later all Air Wisconsin CRJ-200 flying will get parked and E-145 will replace it. That will be ExpressJet doing it. I expect the XJT and CommuteAir merger after the absorbing of TransState. Skywest has CRJ-200 that will get parked as well but SKYW owns them. That will get replaced with E-145. I expect ExpressJet/CommuteAir will eventually have 90% 50 seaters to United mainline aircraft. After the Boeing and Embraer merger gets approved, new E-145 are coming our way to replace the older ones and park the CRJ-200's in the United system. Thats why Skywest is scrambling to cover all the CRJ product to dump it. Parts are going to get expensive when Mitsibishi charges more because they bought Bombardier last year. ExpressJet doesnt have any money to buy anything nor or we a public corp with issued stock to buy anything. We operate for United and we got lucky to get away from SKYW and we got lucky United favored us over Hulas. So we have to grow...we are forced to grow...and I like that because I can finally see what I like...it's called "some stroke"!
Now for the good news how this went down and more good news to come.
TransState (Hulas) tried selling his airline to Republic and Kirby stopped the transaction. Kirby's plan was grow GOJets (owned by Hulas) with the conversion of CRJ-700 to CRJ-550's because of the United scope clause. Kirby knew Compass (owned by Hulas) was done by this years because of the Delta ending Compass contract and American going to take back their E-175's. Everyone at Envoy thought they were getting those airplanes and a new LAX base. But Skywest sneeked in and acquired the AA planes in early Feb. Hulas is in his mid 80's and wants out. His children didn't want the airline. Kirby is trying to streamline the United Express carriers like he did at AA. ExpressJet losing the E-175 contract to Mesa was enough to suggest that ExpressJet couldnt compete in the eyes of United management with the scale of Mesa and Skywest E-175 program despite being owned by United. The scope issue with the UAL pilots was easy to solve by buying XJT and then merging and buying as many as you want. But that would have raised costs and gave the pilots leverage. Now partly owned UAL express carriers have no large RJ's and no leverage. Mesa was able to cut their deal because they had CRJ-700 to give to GOJets. Skywest will be able to cut their deal with GOJets and get the remaining new E-175 from United. GOJets when they complete all the conversions from SKYW and Mesa will probably operate those planes until each one times out D check. The only choice United had was to move the remaining E-145's from TransState to XJT. Later all Air Wisconsin CRJ-200 flying will get parked and E-145 will replace it. That will be ExpressJet doing it. I expect the XJT and CommuteAir merger after the absorbing of TransState. Skywest has CRJ-200 that will get parked as well but SKYW owns them. That will get replaced with E-145. I expect ExpressJet/CommuteAir will eventually have 90% 50 seaters to United mainline aircraft. After the Boeing and Embraer merger gets approved, new E-145 are coming our way to replace the older ones and park the CRJ-200's in the United system. Thats why Skywest is scrambling to cover all the CRJ product to dump it. Parts are going to get expensive when Mitsibishi charges more because they bought Bombardier last year. ExpressJet doesnt have any money to buy anything nor or we a public corp with issued stock to buy anything. We operate for United and we got lucky to get away from SKYW and we got lucky United favored us over Hulas. So we have to grow...we are forced to grow...and I like that because I can finally see what I like...it's called "some stroke"!
02-25-2020, 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by THKooj
Exactly. 20 Compass 175s are 100% slated for Envoy.
02-25-2020, 03:31 AM
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Originally Posted by UnitedExpress
02-25-2020, 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by DownInPetaluma
Vic, you’re not doing yourself any favors, nor the rest of us. Stop already and go back to your B737-145, mmkay? Social media will catch up with you. Internet is forever.
