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Old 02-28-2020, 01:57 PM
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I mean, I hope something good is coming for us XJT guys
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Originally Posted by molitvic13 View Post
Stole this from an individual Pilot Group FB page:

Now for the good news how this went down and more good news to come.

TransState (Hulas) tried selling his airline to Republic and Kirby stopped the transaction. Kirby's plan was grow GOJets (owned by Hulas) with the conversion of CRJ-700 to CRJ-550's because of the United scope clause. Kirby knew Compass (owned by Hulas) was done by this years because of the Delta ending Compass contract and American going to take back their E-175's. Everyone at Envoy thought they were getting those airplanes and a new LAX base. But Skywest sneeked in and acquired the AA planes in early Feb. Hulas is in his mid 80's and wants out. His children didn't want the airline. Kirby is trying to streamline the United Express carriers like he did at AA. ExpressJet losing the E-175 contract to Mesa was enough to suggest that ExpressJet couldnt compete in the eyes of United management with the scale of Mesa and Skywest E-175 program despite being owned by United. The scope issue with the UAL pilots was easy to solve by buying XJT and then merging and buying as many as you want. But that would have raised costs and gave the pilots leverage. Now partly owned UAL express carriers have no large RJ's and no leverage. Mesa was able to cut their deal because they had CRJ-700 to give to GOJets. Skywest will be able to cut their deal with GOJets and get the remaining new E-175 from United. GOJets when they complete all the conversions from SKYW and Mesa will probably operate those planes until each one times out D check. The only choice United had was to move the remaining E-145's from TransState to XJT. Later all Air Wisconsin CRJ-200 flying will get parked and E-145 will replace it. That will be ExpressJet doing it. I expect the XJT and CommuteAir merger after the absorbing of TransState. Skywest has CRJ-200 that will get parked as well but SKYW owns them. That will get replaced with E-145. I expect ExpressJet/CommuteAir will eventually have 90% 50 seaters to United mainline aircraft. After the Boeing and Embraer merger gets approved, new E-145 are coming our way to replace the older ones and park the CRJ-200's in the United system. Thats why Skywest is scrambling to cover all the CRJ product to dump it. Parts are going to get expensive when Mitsibishi charges more because they bought Bombardier last year. ExpressJet doesnt have any money to buy anything nor or we a public corp with issued stock to buy anything. We operate for United and we got lucky to get away from SKYW and we got lucky United favored us over Hulas. So we have to grow...we are forced to grow...and I like that because I can finally see what I like...it's called "some stroke"!
Does anyone actually believe they’re going to dust off the EMB-145 Assembly line and start producing new models of a plane passengers hate? If a new 50 seater comes it will most certainly have two rows on each side, a cabin over 6 feet tall and overhead space.

Skywest is actively pulling CRJ-200’s out of the desert. They aren’t going anywhere anytime soon.

We weren’t “lucky” to lose our 175 fleet to SkyWest. This has nothing to do with United favoring us over Hulas. TSA simply went out of business and United shifted flying to make us an all 145 carrier.

We had a bunch of extra FO’s stuck on the 175 after Mesa was awarded the last batch of planes. Going to one fleet makes us more efficient in theory. That is if people don’t just hit the exits.

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Originally Posted by Cessna182TypeR View Post
Does anyone actually believe they’re going to dust off the EMB-145 Assembly line and start producing new models of a plane passengers hate? If a new 50 seater comes it will most certainly have two rows on each side, a cabin over 6 feet tall and overhead space.

Skywest is actively pulling CRJ-200’s out of the desert. They aren’t going anywhere anytime soon.

We weren’t “lucky” to lose our 175 fleet to SkyWest. This has nothing to do with United favoring us over Hulas. TSA simply went out of business and United shifted flying to make us an all 145 carrier.

We had a bunch of extra FO’s stuck on the 175 after Mesa was awarded the last batch of planes. Going to one fleet makes us more efficient in theory. That is if people don’t just hit the exits.

all of of this is spot on.
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Originally Posted by Cessna182TypeR View Post
Does anyone actually believe they’re going to dust off the EMB-145 Assembly line and start producing new models of a plane passengers hate? If a new 50 seater comes it will most certainly have two rows on each side, a cabin over 6 feet tall and overhead space.



Skywest is actively pulling CRJ-200’s out of the desert. They aren’t going anywhere anytime soon.



We weren’t “lucky” to lose our 175 fleet to SkyWest. This has nothing to do with United favoring us over Hulas. TSA simply went out of business and United shifted flying to make us an all 145 carrier.



We had a bunch of extra FO’s stuck on the 175 after Mesa was awarded the last batch of planes. Going to one fleet makes us more efficient in theory. That is if people don’t just hit the exits.


Lol extra FOs ok. You keep those golden nuggets of wisdom coming there big boy. We will have CAs flying right seat in the 175 as soon as next week. Too many FOs is part of the reason for this. LOL That’s rich.


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Lol extra FOs ok. You keep those golden nuggets of wisdom coming there big boy. We will have CAs flying right seat in the 175 as soon as next week. Too many FOs is part of the reason for this. LOL That’s rich.


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What are you talking about?
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What are you talking about?


In ORD for March they didn’t even build any relief lines because they are so short FOs on the 175
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Originally Posted by DoSomePilotStuf View Post
Lol extra FOs ok. You keep those golden nuggets of wisdom coming there big boy. We will have CAs flying right seat in the 175 as soon as next week. Too many FOs is part of the reason for this. LOL That’s rich.


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just flew a three day trip with a captain in the right seat on the 175 out of Houston. I was surprised
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Originally Posted by DoSomePilotStuf View Post
In ORD for March they didn’t even build any relief lines because they are so short FOs on the 175
Don’t worry about it. Stick to the 145’s.
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Originally Posted by Melit View Post
Don’t worry about it. Stick to the 145’s.


Not a big deal to me. I choose to focus on the positive. One thing I would never do is go after the pilots of a former airline because I was unhappy about the way the place was managed. What exactly do the pilots have to do with your experience?
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Originally Posted by DoSomePilotStuf View Post
Not a big deal to me. I choose to focus on the positive. One thing I would never do is go after the pilots of a former airline because I was unhappy about the way the place was managed. What exactly do the pilots have to do with your experience?
But it is a big deal. When it was announced that United awarded ManAir 25 175’s this board blew up and claimed XJET was the place to be. Some of you went as far as saying that you were going to take MESA’s 175’s within the next year . Take a look back . When United and continental merged that was the downfall of XJET.
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