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molitvic13 02-25-2020 01:28 AM

How ALL OF THIS went down
 
Stole this from an individual Pilot Group FB page:

Now for the good news how this went down and more good news to come.

TransState (Hulas) tried selling his airline to Republic and Kirby stopped the transaction. Kirby's plan was grow GOJets (owned by Hulas) with the conversion of CRJ-700 to CRJ-550's because of the United scope clause. Kirby knew Compass (owned by Hulas) was done by this years because of the Delta ending Compass contract and American going to take back their E-175's. Everyone at Envoy thought they were getting those airplanes and a new LAX base. But Skywest sneeked in and acquired the AA planes in early Feb. Hulas is in his mid 80's and wants out. His children didn't want the airline. Kirby is trying to streamline the United Express carriers like he did at AA. ExpressJet losing the E-175 contract to Mesa was enough to suggest that ExpressJet couldnt compete in the eyes of United management with the scale of Mesa and Skywest E-175 program despite being owned by United. The scope issue with the UAL pilots was easy to solve by buying XJT and then merging and buying as many as you want. But that would have raised costs and gave the pilots leverage. Now partly owned UAL express carriers have no large RJ's and no leverage. Mesa was able to cut their deal because they had CRJ-700 to give to GOJets. Skywest will be able to cut their deal with GOJets and get the remaining new E-175 from United. GOJets when they complete all the conversions from SKYW and Mesa will probably operate those planes until each one times out D check. The only choice United had was to move the remaining E-145's from TransState to XJT. Later all Air Wisconsin CRJ-200 flying will get parked and E-145 will replace it. That will be ExpressJet doing it. I expect the XJT and CommuteAir merger after the absorbing of TransState. Skywest has CRJ-200 that will get parked as well but SKYW owns them. That will get replaced with E-145. I expect ExpressJet/CommuteAir will eventually have 90% 50 seaters to United mainline aircraft. After the Boeing and Embraer merger gets approved, new E-145 are coming our way to replace the older ones and park the CRJ-200's in the United system. Thats why Skywest is scrambling to cover all the CRJ product to dump it. Parts are going to get expensive when Mitsibishi charges more because they bought Bombardier last year. ExpressJet doesnt have any money to buy anything nor or we a public corp with issued stock to buy anything. We operate for United and we got lucky to get away from SKYW and we got lucky United favored us over Hulas. So we have to grow...we are forced to grow...and I like that because I can finally see what I like...it's called "some stroke"!

DownInPetaluma 02-25-2020 03:16 AM

Vic, you’re not doing yourself any favors, nor the rest of us. Stop already and go back to your B737-145, mmkay? Social media will catch up with you. Internet is forever.

Varsity 02-25-2020 03:17 AM

Skywest's 20 175's for AA are new builds that Skywest owns. Not the compass planes.

A lot of that is factually inaccurate.

THKooj 02-25-2020 03:20 AM


Originally Posted by Varsity (Post 2983474)
Skywest's 20 175's for AA are new builds that Skywest owns. Not the compass planes.

A lot of that is factually inaccurate.

Exactly. 20 Compass 175s are 100% slated for Envoy.

UnitedExpress 02-25-2020 03:28 AM


Originally Posted by THKooj (Post 2983475)
Exactly. 20 Compass 175s are 100% slated for Envoy.


THKooj 02-25-2020 03:31 AM

Nice try brah. Sure, the article is correct. But what it doesn't say is that the 20 175s operated by Compass ARE OWNED BY AMERICAN.

CLE to IAH 02-25-2020 03:58 AM


Originally Posted by THKooj (Post 2983478)
Nice try brah. Sure, the article is correct. But what it doesn't say is that the 20 175s operated by Compass ARE OWNED BY AMERICAN.

can you not do your schtick right now?

itsmytime 02-25-2020 04:29 AM


Originally Posted by DownInPetaluma (Post 2983471)
Vic, you’re not doing yourself any favors, nor the rest of us. Stop already and go back to your B737-145, mmkay? Social media will catch up with you. Internet is forever.

LOL! Looks like he’s no longer on the 73 since getting called on it yesterday.

KCaviator 02-25-2020 07:19 AM


Originally Posted by THKooj (Post 2983475)
Exactly. 20 Compass 175s are 100% slated for Envoy.

Please share source.

CLE to IAH 02-25-2020 07:40 AM


Originally Posted by KCaviator (Post 2983661)
Please share source.

you’re asking a lot.


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