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CPPfacts 02-29-2020 07:24 PM


Originally Posted by Redheadtexas (Post 2986859)
I remember when tsa got our jets and dragged they were gonna take them all.

^^^^THIS^^^^^^

UnitedExpress 02-29-2020 07:39 PM

No Vote = Recall

Flydafe 02-29-2020 08:29 PM


Originally Posted by StuckOnReserve (Post 2986639)
Are you referring to the MEC’s email on 2/24?

It didn’t say anything about TSA pilots retaining seniority. All that was said was

“For this reason, we also developed a plan to accommodate the pilots from the airline impacted by this announcement. We will announce that plan after we've had a chance to address the pilot leaders at that airline.”

They can keep their longevity and position on the pay scale, they can even have the first chance for DEN. But to merge them into the seniority list? Absolutely not. They are placed on the list the day they start INDOC with that date of hire.

That would start a recall vote on the MEC if they were placed on the list above any current XJT pilot.

This isn’t a merger


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might have been longevity type but I do recall the conversation about seniority in the airline industry sucks compared to other industries that allow you to keep your seniority if you change jobs.. example an electrician.

It seemed that the reference to pilot training in the Sims was a topic dealing with Xjt possibly providing other airlines with sim time kinda like flight safety did us. Saying there is shortage of sim providers. Take that with a grain of salt because I was not fully engaged in the conversation at that point.

ReadOnly7 02-29-2020 08:49 PM


Originally Posted by UnitedExpress (Post 2986867)
No Vote = Recall

can you even vote yet? Don’t you need a full year on property?

Cessna182TypeR 02-29-2020 09:26 PM


Originally Posted by afterburn81 (Post 2986830)
Guys crack me up. Haven’t heard one word of disapproval about flying the airframes that would be coming from a dismantled airline. In fact, the company is touting this as “growth”. Another guys job. His income to pay for his family to eat. Meanwhile we are on here commenting about his this is good for us (justifying the loss of EJETS). Then we have the audacity to strongly oppose any list integration.


So you’ll gladly take their aircraft. But get to the back of the line buddy! Some good ole fashion union brotherhood here. Cut throat city if you ask me.

LoL, which dismantled airline are you referring to? These planes came from XJT when it had 250+ EMB-145’s and was the exclusive carrier of the 145 XR🤣🤣🤣

The planes are just finding their way home again. Nobody should be taking that lightly but nobody should be shedding a tear either...

Cessna182TypeR 02-29-2020 09:28 PM


Originally Posted by Flydafe (Post 2986892)
might have been longevity type but I do recall the conversation about seniority in the airline industry sucks compared to other industries that allow you to keep your seniority if you change jobs.. example an electrician.

It seemed that the reference to pilot training in the Sims was a topic dealing with Xjt possibly providing other airlines with sim time kinda like flight safety did us. Saying there is shortage of sim providers. Take that with a grain of salt because I was not fully engaged in the conversation at that point.

Pretty sure their instructors could use our sims but no way our instructors are legal to train their pilots.

UnitedExpress 03-01-2020 03:08 AM


Originally Posted by ReadOnly7 (Post 2986894)
can you even vote yet? Don’t you need a full year on property?

I’ve been here for over a year. Are you getting displaced?

StuckOnReserve 03-01-2020 04:03 AM


Originally Posted by Flydafe (Post 2986892)
might have been longevity type but I do recall the conversation about seniority in the airline industry sucks compared to other industries that allow you to keep your seniority if you change jobs.. example an electrician.


Construction trades are a different animal. Most are independent contractors who are sourced through the union local. In those cases the union also provides the medical benefits and retirement.

When an electrician chooses to seek W-2 employment with a company instead of being contract sourced through a local their company employment seniority starts at day one. Regardless of how long they have been an electrician.




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Blackhawk 03-01-2020 06:56 PM

It doesn’t matter how you got here.

flynd94 03-02-2020 05:29 AM


Originally Posted by Blackhawk (Post 2987549)
It doesn’t matter how you got here.


The amount of Holt/Tutt/Hall quotes/one liners are so deep. I remember sitting at MEC meetings and thinking are these guys that dense????


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