How ALL OF THIS went down
02-29-2020, 08:29 PM
#93
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Originally Posted by StuckOnReserve
Are you referring to the MEC’s email on 2/24?
It didn’t say anything about TSA pilots retaining seniority. All that was said was
“For this reason, we also developed a plan to accommodate the pilots from the airline impacted by this announcement. We will announce that plan after we've had a chance to address the pilot leaders at that airline.”
They can keep their longevity and position on the pay scale, they can even have the first chance for DEN. But to merge them into the seniority list? Absolutely not. They are placed on the list the day they start INDOC with that date of hire.
That would start a recall vote on the MEC if they were placed on the list above any current XJT pilot.
This isn’t a merger
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It didn’t say anything about TSA pilots retaining seniority. All that was said was
“For this reason, we also developed a plan to accommodate the pilots from the airline impacted by this announcement. We will announce that plan after we've had a chance to address the pilot leaders at that airline.”
They can keep their longevity and position on the pay scale, they can even have the first chance for DEN. But to merge them into the seniority list? Absolutely not. They are placed on the list the day they start INDOC with that date of hire.
That would start a recall vote on the MEC if they were placed on the list above any current XJT pilot.
This isn’t a merger
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It seemed that the reference to pilot training in the Sims was a topic dealing with Xjt possibly providing other airlines with sim time kinda like flight safety did us. Saying there is shortage of sim providers. Take that with a grain of salt because I was not fully engaged in the conversation at that point.
02-29-2020, 09:26 PM
#95
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Originally Posted by afterburn81
Guys crack me up. Haven’t heard one word of disapproval about flying the airframes that would be coming from a dismantled airline. In fact, the company is touting this as “growth”. Another guys job. His income to pay for his family to eat. Meanwhile we are on here commenting about his this is good for us (justifying the loss of EJETS). Then we have the audacity to strongly oppose any list integration.
So you’ll gladly take their aircraft. But get to the back of the line buddy! Some good ole fashion union brotherhood here. Cut throat city if you ask me.
So you’ll gladly take their aircraft. But get to the back of the line buddy! Some good ole fashion union brotherhood here. Cut throat city if you ask me.
The planes are just finding their way home again. Nobody should be taking that lightly but nobody should be shedding a tear either...
02-29-2020, 09:28 PM
#96
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Originally Posted by Flydafe
might have been longevity type but I do recall the conversation about seniority in the airline industry sucks compared to other industries that allow you to keep your seniority if you change jobs.. example an electrician.
It seemed that the reference to pilot training in the Sims was a topic dealing with Xjt possibly providing other airlines with sim time kinda like flight safety did us. Saying there is shortage of sim providers. Take that with a grain of salt because I was not fully engaged in the conversation at that point.
It seemed that the reference to pilot training in the Sims was a topic dealing with Xjt possibly providing other airlines with sim time kinda like flight safety did us. Saying there is shortage of sim providers. Take that with a grain of salt because I was not fully engaged in the conversation at that point.
03-01-2020, 04:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Flydafe
might have been longevity type but I do recall the conversation about seniority in the airline industry sucks compared to other industries that allow you to keep your seniority if you change jobs.. example an electrician.
Construction trades are a different animal. Most are independent contractors who are sourced through the union local. In those cases the union also provides the medical benefits and retirement.
When an electrician chooses to seek W-2 employment with a company instead of being contract sourced through a local their company employment seniority starts at day one. Regardless of how long they have been an electrician.
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03-02-2020, 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Blackhawk
It doesn’t matter how you got here.
The amount of Holt/Tutt/Hall quotes/one liners are so deep. I remember sitting at MEC meetings and thinking are these guys that dense????
