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MooseAg03 02-28-2020 04:44 AM


Originally Posted by SeeYa (Post 2985731)
we didn’t “lose” anything to Mesa


Ok, so they beat us by giving UA a better offer. What’s the difference? You can be naive and think those airplanes weren’t meant for XJT, but that was the original plan. Mesa made the deal better for UA by footing the bill for the airplanes in order to secure a long contract on the flying. If that deal hadn’t been made, those 20 airplanes would be headed to XJT.

It is plainly obvious they did not start the XJT 175 program for just 25 tails, otherwise we’d be keeping those airplanes. People who can’t see that the regionals are under the table fighting each other for scraps that the legacies drop from their table are misguided.


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legacysaretough 02-28-2020 04:56 AM


Originally Posted by Flydafe (Post 2985653)
we will need a good campaign to inform the rest of the pilot group because last time no one read the contract and signed a deal with a promise and a clause with Skywest in it

YOU obviously have not been at XJT long enough, but in Contract 2018....the potential of voting down the contract could have and would have ultimately led to our wind down (TSA claimed inability to attract pilots and now look at them)

Accusing many of us of not reading the contract.......EHHHHH thats a little bit much dont ya think???

Cessna182TypeR 02-28-2020 05:31 AM


Originally Posted by MooseAg03 (Post 2985745)
Ok, so they beat us by giving UA a better offer. What’s the difference? You can be naive and think those airplanes weren’t meant for XJT, but that was the original plan. Mesa made the deal better for UA by footing the bill for the airplanes in order to secure a long contract on the flying. If that deal hadn’t been made, those 20 airplanes would be headed to XJT.

It is plainly obvious they did not start the XJT 175 program for just 25 tails, otherwise we’d be keeping those airplanes. People who can’t see that the regionals are under the table fighting each other for scraps that the legacies drop from their table are misguided.


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100% this^

Rodviyr 02-28-2020 06:01 AM

I’m still waiting for the MRJs that we were promised would be ours in 2017.

captive apple 02-28-2020 06:14 AM


Originally Posted by UnitedExpress (Post 2985666)
What really blows my mind is how UA ALPA actually sat back and watched a fellow United Express ALPA company in TSA go under, throw their pilots out on the street and allow

The UA ALPA that wanted priority on your Jumpseat over YOU only to be checked by NON ALPA UAX pilots?!?

Sorry, these people don’t care about you. This is not a family.

afterburn81 02-28-2020 06:23 AM


Originally Posted by legacysaretough (Post 2985753)
YOU obviously have not been at XJT long enough, but in Contract 2018....the potential of voting down the contract could have and would have ultimately led to our wind down (TSA claimed inability to attract pilots and now look at them)

Accusing many of us of not reading the contract.......EHHHHH thats a little bit much dont ya think???


Blah Blah Blah. Admit it. Folks fell for the scare tactics.

SeeYa 02-28-2020 07:38 AM


Originally Posted by captive apple (Post 2985793)
The UA ALPA that wanted priority on your Jumpseat over YOU only to be checked by NON ALPA UAX pilots?!?

Sorry, these people don’t care about you. This is not a family.

no they didn’t

ninerdriver 02-28-2020 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by captive apple (Post 2985793)
The UA ALPA that wanted priority on your Jumpseat over YOU only to be checked by NON ALPA UAX pilots?!?

Sorry, these people don’t care about you. This is not a family.

What are you talking about? Show us the part where UA would have had priority over XJT on XJT metal.


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