Originally Posted by SiShane (Post 1231526)

Got an interview offer for the 31st. Kinda nervous about that 60 question knowledge test. The study guide is very general but its all I have for now. Anyone know of any other good study material for it? Im just a regular old CFI with no jet experience. Any help would be gladly appreciated! Thanks!

Originally Posted by gtechpilot (Post 1231597)

I suck at reading, huh? Seriously man, why do you have your panties in such a wad?

If you will listen carefully enough, most of us on the crj side will agree whole heartedly that your bidding work rules are very good for those who know how to work the system. Personally I would make out great using your work rules. But where a lot of other guys aren't biting on your work rules is they don't want to spend so much time swap/drop/trading to get what they want when they can get just as close when they actually bid.

The reserve 'discussion' isn't useful - the company saved money using PBS, just not as much as they originally expected. Looking at reserve levels is meaningless because the company is getting by with fewer pilots overall by making our monthly lines higher in value overall and more 'productive'. My contention with your statement was your 'if not more' proclamation. The big mistake the company now regrets is allowing vacation low. Before you disparage my fact checking, this is from the horse's mouth - SH 'director of aircraft ops'.

As for how 'great' our PBS is, the majority of the pilot group likes what we have although there are necessary tweaks that would make it better. With PBS the norm in our industry, how many pilot groups echo the CRJ sentiment?

Some of your work rules would work out nicely incorporated into PBS, but no one on the CRJ side wants relief lines to come back. Instead of getting paid for the occasional vacation/training trip drops, many of us would rather be paid a higher overall average. Instead of having to be at our computers at the precise time to trade for open time to make our schedules better, many of us would prefer that our original schedule were good in the first place.

I like your contract - I'd take it as is, with the minor addition that I want solid duty rigs. That said, PBS is industry
standard now and I don't see a joint contract without it. Why not be proactive and try to shape it into something you want before it is forced by mediation or whatever?

Originally Posted by supersix-4 (Post 1231697)

lets just imagine if every pilot actually voted.. If every xjt pilot voted NO and every asa pilot voted yes, Does that mean asa would get stuck with xjt's line bidding?

Originally Posted by PBSG (Post 1231711)

I hate this statement. Might as well say "Well guys, everyone else has it so we need it too. Gotta be cost competitive."

Originally Posted by Loudoun (Post 1231322)

The 7/9 class was awarded bases today.
IAD 4
ATL 10

I have no idea what is to be expected for the distribution of the next class.


All the "visitors" to the class have cited attrition as the reason for hiring.

Originally Posted by afterburn81 (Post 1231788)

Seems kind of odd that they would be hiring for the 700/900 ATL when they are also offering time off without pay. Especially when everyone on the aircraft keeps going backwards. 4.5-5 years on reserve is killing the guys on the bottom of list. I think they see it getting worse. Attrition has evolved to be more of a flow out of the bottom rather than the top.

These guys have a lot to look forward to. Wonder what they are telling them this time:rolleyes:.

Originally Posted by PBSG (Post 1231711)

First off - Work the system? For XJT Bidding you look at what line you want, type in to a box and hit 'Submit'. Awarded in seniority order. Most of us at XJT feel that PBS is very fragile and sensitive when trying to get a decent line, and besides PBS could be the absolute best system out there - I'm not disagreeing one way or another - But from a technology standpoint most guys on the XJT side do not feel the company can successfully pull it off. IT-wise we've had so many failures in the past number of years, that if they want PBS they need a HUGE upgrade on the IT side.



I hate this statement. Might as well say "Well guys, everyone else has it so we need it too. Gotta be cost competitive."