LXJT is going to cease to exist in June? I will report back in June and let you know how it's going. Your rumors are false and your generalization of LXJT is ridiculous



We have received some questions from pilots that indicate there is misinformation in circulation about the content and results of the meeting on Wednesday. The facts of the meeting are as follows:



· ALPA presented the Company with selected information from the polling data regarding pilot perceptions of the condition of the Company, pilot opinions of management, and general expectations for a new JCBA.

· The parties discussed shortcomings of previous communications efforts and how each side intends to better explain the process and the outcome to pilots.

· The parties discussed current operational problems and contract compliance issues. The Company acknowledged that the pilots need to see results in these areas and is working to make that a reality.

· ALPA clearly stated that concessions of any kind in the JCBA are not acceptable.

· The Company acknowledged that improvements must be made to the failed agreement; a reorganization of the failed JCBA’s overall value would not work.

· The Company asked to begin negotiations as soon as possible.

· The parties committed to continue the negotiations process without delay.

· The parties mutually agreed on the June dates for exchange of full proposals..

While a waiting until June to continue is not ideal, several important factors contributed to this decision:

· Developing an opening proposal is a complex and important task. Openers set the tone for a negotiating process, and just like a first impression you only get one chance. Because we will be developing new proposals and not just rehashing the terms of the failed JCBA, this will take more time.

· The online survey of the pilot group is still in progress, and proposals cannot be developed until analysis of the survey is complete. If you have yet to do so, please take the survey now.

· The two MECs have yet to meet together to discuss specific JNC guidance for negotiations and to determine a single position on new JCBA issues. We will not present openers to the Company until our positions have been vetted and approved by both MECs.

· There is currently a recall vote in Council 176, and the XJT MEC strongly believes that a decision on openers must be delayed until that process is complete so the pilots of 176 are properly represented.

Nice try... Why to fall for management tactics again? WE (xjt and asa) were so unified, and now after one negotiation session it seems that management is achieving it's goal to divide us again! I expected more from you (as someone who was so vocal during our TA voting)! We need to keep supporting each other and stop the mudslinging... I was under the impression that someone like you will call managements bluff.....

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L-XJT will still exist in 3 years... Many of the UA CPAs don't expire before 2020.... Who cares that UA is unhappy? When you cook a meal with expired ingredients (because they were cheaper), later don't complain that you have a diarrhea!!

That's fine by me. But the last EMBs don't expire until the CPA expires in 2020. I can definitely see them parking all the 50 seaters (both sides) within 5 years and then transferring the 700/900s to Skywest and taking the last few hundred pilots with them.

What I don't buy is Inc moving away from two of their customers.

Do you see me worried about that? I voted no to a TA that would have supposedly averted that situation.

News flash! They've already told us they don't intend to extend it's arrangement with UAL. They threatened that and the resulting static fleet plan before the failed TA vote. Guess what? We said no anyway. It's old news.

For those of you who think CPAs can't be terminated you may have forgotton about this. The bottom line is If you don't own the flying you are at risk.

Delta Air Line's New Lawsuit Delta vs. Mesa - legal battle continues - eTurboNews.com

I don't think UA would purposely terminate any CPAs with their 50 seater express carriers. UA already reached the cap on the amount of 76-seaters they may have (until 2016). After 2016, UA probably will gradually increase the amount of large RJs while reducing the 50-seaters. In any case, the reduction wont happen overnight, so it is fairly safe to say that XJT will stay in business until at least 2020 (definitely longer than the 3 years some of the CRJ guys claim in here)....
In any case, all I am saying is we should stop the "my regional is better than yours" arguments and work together toward stopping the whipsaw (just like we worked together to vote down the POS TA)!

That is the most accurate analogy of Expressjet service and reliability I have ever seen.

Have had several trips with deadheads on Expressjet lately. If it isn't the most unreliable form of air travel with the least interested employees in the industry they are at the front of the pack. I am out on a four day trip and I can deal with the shenanigans of express jet. It is just the poor passengers that bought tickets with the idea they were going to get from point A to point B that I feel for. What an embarrassment.

I certainly hope UA can relieve themselves of the service of Expressjet, sooner rather than later.

Most realistic scenario I've read yet

It always makes me smile when mainline pilots complain about their regional feed.... Take all the flying back, problem solved!

Like I previously said, they can try but it's up to a arbitrator or judge to decide, not Inc. And also notice this was mainline wining this case against Mesa. Not a regional winning it's case against a major. So if UAL wants Inc to abide by the CPA they both negotiated, then I would put my money on mainline winning that battle.

If there were a like button for this, I would be pressing it.