Originally Posted by Bozo
(Post 1625341)
All 135s at the end of August 2014 and 22 145s by the end of 2014.
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Originally Posted by Bartender
(Post 1625156)
Capt. Tony, here is the rest of the story. Former XJT MEC Chair CG worked very closely with the CAL MEC during their seniority list integration. In fact CG was present during the arbitration award. LXJT is going to employ the same tactics that CAL employed by trying to delay SLI by delaying contract negotiations. Their hope is that the LASA side will retire lots of 50 seaters by the time this wraps up and they will get a snap shot at DOS instead of Date of acquisition and this will help them with an arbitrated award.
Only problem is that the company is willing to give us money right now and take advantage of some opportunities right now. LXJT pilots need to ask their reps why Chris is still involved and still stalling things. I seem to remember a certain person holding up neogtiations for the better part of a year over the "line in the sand" memo. Rushing only benefits the company. Also when we started this process the company stated that the check book was open. I am happy that we are taking it slow/deliberate pace. All you are doing by making these posts is driving a wedge between the two pilot groups. Are you a mgmt schill? Or a lifer afraid for your job? |
Originally Posted by newarkblows
(Post 1625244)
The ASA mec voted unanimously in favor of the last TA and the company was spewing garbage about 3 yrs until another TA would be presented... both are running short on credibility. The local XJT mec is the only one that had any no votes or voices of reason last time around. If the company didn't want a delay than they should have been more realistic the first time around. The pilots are gaining leverage by the day and the Skywest board of directors are not happy with amateur hour in Atlanta. I hope both MECs can be on the same page going forward but the company needs to make amends for the used car salesman tactics and lies. Great that they want to be serious ... after 4 yrs. Don't let management scrambling to soften their woopsie tear apart the two MEcs.
And you're right, the BOD is losing patience. Every day we actually lose leverage because our competitors get closer to getting their act together or we're one day closer to missing the deadline to bid, which puts us right back on the shrink to death in 5 years plan. I don't know why you guys think we will have increasing leverage. |
Originally Posted by Captain Tony
(Post 1625524)
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Originally Posted by newarkblows The ASA mec voted unanimously in favor of the last TA and the company was spewing garbage about 3 yrs until another TA would be presented... both are running short on credibility. The local XJT mec is the only one that had any no votes or voices of reason last time around. If the company didn't want a delay than they should have been more realistic the first time around. The pilots are gaining leverage by the day and the Skywest board of directors are not happy with amateur hour in Atlanta. I hope both MECs can be on the same page going forward but the company needs to make amends for the used car salesman tactics and lies. Great that they want to be serious ... after 4 yrs. Don't let management scrambling to soften their woopsie tear apart the two MEcs. The ASA MEC voted unanimously to let the pilot group have a say. They voted to put it out for a vote, not a vote of approval. If you're going to be a critic, then at least get your facts straight. And you're right, the BOD is losing patience. Every day we actually lose leverage because our competitors get closer to getting their act together or we're one day closer to missing the deadline to bid, which puts us right back on the shrink to death in 5 years plan. I don't know why you guys think we will have increasing leverage. |
Originally Posted by Captain Tony
(Post 1625524)
Every day we actually lose leverage because our competitors get closer to getting their act together or we're one day closer to missing the deadline to bid, which puts us right back on the shrink to death in 5 years plan. I don't know why you guys think we will have increasing leverage.
If the company is now offering dramatic improvements in ALL areas of our contract then great but even one concession in any area (e.g. LXJT DC plan or LTD or PBS etc.) requires the polling analysis and our new NC time to get up to speed, otherwise another NO vote. |
What of you are compensated for the loss of your LTD and DC plan? Would it still be a concession? Everything has changed. Nobody is selling concessions here. You guys need to start thinking positive.
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Originally Posted by Captain Tony
(Post 1625595)
What of you are compensated for the loss of your LTD and DC plan? Would it still be a concession? Everything has changed. Nobody is selling concessions here. You guys need to start thinking positive.
... maybe you should be the one to start thinking positive. The difference is more than the pay difference between 50 seat and 70 seat pay offered in the TA. If you mean compensate me by hiking my pay by 5% plus taxes (that I'd now have to pay) so a 7% pay rate adjustment just to compensate the loss of DC plan then maybe ... though it might not be acceptable to some people, hence the polling. At your seniority you would be getting another 5.5 or 6% pay straight into your 401K |
Originally Posted by IrishNJ
(Post 1625634)
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Originally Posted by Captain Tony What of you are compensated for the loss of your LTD and DC plan? Would it still be a concession? Everything has changed. Nobody is selling concessions here. You guys need to start thinking positive. If they're not selling concessions then wouldn't it be easier just to give everyone (ASA + XJT) the DC plan? ... maybe you should be the one to start thinking positive. If you mean compensate me by hiking my pay by 5% plus taxes that I'd now have to pay so a 7% pay rate adjustment just to compensate the loss of DC plan then maybe ... though it might not be acceptable to some people, hence the polling. At your seniority you would be getting another 5.5 or 6% pay straight into your 401K |
Looks like 6 net CRJ upgrades from the most recent position notice award.
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Originally Posted by Bartender
(Post 1625156)
Capt. Tony, here is the rest of the story. Former XJT MEC Chair CG worked very closely with the CAL MEC during their seniority list integration. In fact CG was present during the arbitration award. LXJT is going to employ the same tactics that CAL employed by trying to delay SLI by delaying contract negotiations. Their hope is that the LASA side will retire lots of 50 seaters by the time this wraps up and they will get a snap shot at DOS instead of Date of acquisition and this will help them with an arbitrated award.
Only problem is that the company is willing to give us money right now and take advantage of some opportunities right now. LXJT pilots need to ask their reps why Chris is still involved and still stalling things. |
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