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Old 12-21-2013, 08:32 PM
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I have the feeling Eagle is going to take that amazingly bad offer. Hope I'm wrong.
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Old 12-21-2013, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by RgrMurdock View Post
The point of raising pay and compensation at the regional level should be to increase costs for the majors and give them incentive to give the mainline some of the regional feed (90 seaters?). If we keep taking pay cuts they will have no reason to even consider it.
This is correct. And it is beyond my comprehension as to why Moak and ALPA leadership have been so easy to let this garbage happen at the sub-mainlines. This sewer waste will flow uphill soon enough.
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Old 12-22-2013, 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by RgrMurdock View Post
The point of raising pay and compensation at the regional level should be to increase costs for the majors and give them incentive to give the mainline some of the regional feed (90 seaters?). If we keep taking pay cuts they will have no reason to even consider it.
+1 VOTE NO! We all deserve raises. The majors are stupidably (I'm aware it's not a word) profitable right now. It'd be stupid not to get paid back some of the money we help them make.
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Old 12-22-2013, 01:15 AM
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ALPA needs to get it together and counter these proposals. Moak should know this will directly effect pay and jobs at Delta. Like everyone has been saying, on the eve of the worlds biggest pilot shortage voting yes could effect every pilot. There comes a point when pay gets so bad you would be better off getting out of the game, than bending over and taking it.
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Old 12-22-2013, 04:31 AM
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I have the feeling Eagle is going to take that amazingly bad offer. Hope I'm wrong.
I sure hope not! I'm against it, and every other Eagle pilot I've talked to so far is against it too.
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Old 12-22-2013, 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by sevenforseven View Post
I have the feeling Eagle is going to take that amazingly bad offer. Hope I'm wrong.
They may have fooled me the first time but me along with many others will not be fooled again. I haven't talked to anyone that is supporting it.
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Old 12-22-2013, 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by fisherman View Post
I sure hope not! I'm against it, and every other Eagle pilot I've talked to so far is against it too.
Some of the guys I know at Eagle are saying that there are a lot of people who (live under the illusion that) saying "yes" is the only way to assure that they have a job; otherwise it's COMAIR all over again.

AMR has never been a "friend" of Eagle -- ever. The guys who have been there a while know that; I certainly do. They also have an existing contract; seems that people who think this deal is going to save their bacon are forgetting that.
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Old 12-22-2013, 09:11 AM
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They may have fooled me the first time but me along with many others will not be fooled again. I haven't talked to anyone that is supporting it.
I'm another guy that voted yes the first time and now realize my mistake. There is no way I'm voting in ANY further concessions. It really does seem like a lot of guys are feeling the same way. Lets call their bluff!
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Old 12-22-2013, 02:34 PM
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7 Year Acey FO here, is there a link that states what were the concessions that the Eagle group took the first time?
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Old 12-22-2013, 05:25 PM
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7 Year Acey FO here, is there a link that states what were the concessions that the Eagle group took the first time?
I'm not sure, I'm not defending the yes voters of that abortion mind you, but it was under bankruptcy. These new round of concessions are total BS.
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