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12-21-2013 | 08:32 PM

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sevenforseven

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I have the feeling Eagle is going to take that amazingly bad offer. Hope I'm wrong.

12-21-2013 | 08:51 PM

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CaptainNameless

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Originally Posted by RgrMurdock

The point of raising pay and compensation at the regional level should be to increase costs for the majors and give them incentive to give the mainline some of the regional feed (90 seaters?). If we keep taking pay cuts they will have no reason to even consider it.

This is correct. And it is beyond my comprehension as to why Moak and ALPA leadership have been so easy to let this garbage happen at the sub-mainlines. This sewer waste will flow uphill soon enough.

12-22-2013 | 12:05 AM

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TMoney

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Originally Posted by RgrMurdock

+1 VOTE NO! We all deserve raises. The majors are stupidably (I'm aware it's not a word) profitable right now. It'd be stupid not to get paid back some of the money we help them make.

12-22-2013 | 01:15 AM

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twentyretardten

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ALPA needs to get it together and counter these proposals. Moak should know this will directly effect pay and jobs at Delta. Like everyone has been saying, on the eve of the worlds biggest pilot shortage voting yes could effect every pilot. There comes a point when pay gets so bad you would be better off getting out of the game, than bending over and taking it.

12-22-2013 | 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by FLYZERG

How many lifers are at expressjet? How many lifers are at skywest? Its got to be up there, they would vote yes no matter the cost. I don't imagine there are all that many lifers at eagle as long as they know the they will flow. I would expect a no vote at eagle over the others, if eagle votes yes there is no reason to even flight it anymore the dominoes will fall.

Don't include me in your BS. I've been here 17 years and I'm not giving an inch or another lifer I've spoken to at XJT. We all need to band together and for once stand together and send ALPA down the road and form our own Regional Union. ALPA is a big part of this problem.

12-22-2013 | 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainNameless

This is correct. And it is beyond my comprehension as to why Moak and ALPA leadership have been so easy to let this garbage happen at the sub-mainlines. This sewer waste will flow uphill soon enough.

This is exactly what will happen

12-22-2013 | 04:31 AM

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fisherman

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Originally Posted by sevenforseven

I have the feeling Eagle is going to take that amazingly bad offer. Hope I'm wrong.

I sure hope not! I'm against it, and every other Eagle pilot I've talked to so far is against it too.

12-22-2013 | 06:13 AM

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smooth50

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Originally Posted by sevenforseven

I have the feeling Eagle is going to take that amazingly bad offer. Hope I'm wrong.

They may have fooled me the first time but me along with many others will not be fooled again. I haven't talked to anyone that is supporting it.

12-22-2013 | 06:15 AM

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sevenforseven

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Originally Posted by fisherman

I sure hope not! I'm against it, and every other Eagle pilot I've talked to so far is against it too.

Some of the guys I know at Eagle are saying that there are a lot of people who (live under the illusion that) saying "yes" is the only way to assure that they have a job; otherwise it's COMAIR all over again.

AMR has never been a "friend" of Eagle -- ever. The guys who have been there a while know that; I certainly do. They also have an existing contract; seems that people who think this deal is going to save their bacon are forgetting that.

12-22-2013 | 09:11 AM

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PiperPilot03

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Originally Posted by smooth50

They may have fooled me the first time but me along with many others will not be fooled again. I haven't talked to anyone that is supporting it.

I'm another guy that voted yes the first time and now realize my mistake. There is no way I'm voting in ANY further concessions. It really does seem like a lot of guys are feeling the same way. Lets call their bluff!