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Old 05-04-2023 | 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by PurpleToolBox
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No thank you. 1 is more than enough.
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Old 05-04-2023 | 12:02 PM
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Just finished mine January of Last year, 25 yr marriage, 23 yr captain for the other big freight company, they stuck me with 12k a month temporary support while we fought it out, 4k every two weeks and you pay the taxes, message me if you have any questions. I ended up doing better than what the court gave me, we ended up settling, but you will lose half you can plan on it. I am also located in the Memphis area, so our situations will be similar
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Old 05-04-2023 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by WhistlePig
Explain if you can.
IMO, you are only looking through the lens of domestic abuse and not the larger societal impacts. No fault divorce has been around since well before the 1960s, so women weren’t chained to marriages. My grandmother went through more than her fair share of alcoholics and domestic abusers (married four times). Her first divorce was in 1946 and she was a Rosie the Riveter on Long Island and her dad was a coal miner. She had an outhouse until 1959, so she wasn’t exactly a woman of privilege. Yet she got out of harmful marriage just fine.

However, the greater ramifications of the ease of divorce have been the detrimental impacts psychologically for all the people that have experienced them. 25-35% of divorces are due to domestic abuse. Another 20% are due to adultery. That means around half are attributed to something else. And given that women initiate 80-90% of divorces, it only facilitates the path to an early exit when she gets half for a no fault divorce.

The 60’s saw an increase in divorce rates from 2.6/1000 to 6.2/1000. That’s nearly 250%. For reference, todays rate is closer to 2.7. And these divorces impacted not only women, but children as well. Those children are more likely to experience depression, anxiety, suicidality, and have academic performance that is a third of a standard deviation below their peers from intact families. This impacts them, but also has downstream consequences that last decades. More than any other time in our history. That’s a lot of harm and I wouldn’t say that you could call it a “grand” thing for society.

I see your point about some good things coming as a result, but that time period for families and society in general was a net loss (IMO) in many ways. Calling it “grand” minimizes the damages that occurred.
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Old 05-10-2023 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by NotMrNiceGuy
IMO, you are only looking through the lens of domestic abuse and not the larger societal impacts. No fault divorce has been around since well before the 1960s, so women weren’t chained to marriages. My grandmother went through more than her fair share of alcoholics and domestic abusers (married four times). Her first divorce was in 1946 and she was a Rosie the Riveter on Long Island and her dad was a coal miner. She had an outhouse until 1959, so she wasn’t exactly a woman of privilege. Yet she got out of harmful marriage just fine.

However, the greater ramifications of the ease of divorce have been the detrimental impacts psychologically for all the people that have experienced them. 25-35% of divorces are due to domestic abuse. Another 20% are due to adultery. That means around half are attributed to something else. And given that women initiate 80-90% of divorces, it only facilitates the path to an early exit when she gets half for a no fault divorce.

The 60’s saw an increase in divorce rates from 2.6/1000 to 6.2/1000. That’s nearly 250%. For reference, todays rate is closer to 2.7. And these divorces impacted not only women, but children as well. Those children are more likely to experience depression, anxiety, suicidality, and have academic performance that is a third of a standard deviation below their peers from intact families. This impacts them, but also has downstream consequences that last decades. More than any other time in our history. That’s a lot of harm and I wouldn’t say that you could call it a “grand” thing for society.

I see your point about some good things coming as a result, but that time period for families and society in general was a net loss (IMO) in many ways. Calling it “grand” minimizes the damages that occurred.
Thanks for the response. I'll take your percentages as true without citation. In that case, with 80% of women initiating divorce, their reasons are abuse 25%, infidelity, 20%: that's over half and leaves just 35% to irreconcilable differences based on the woman initiating divorce and unknown in the case of male initiated divorce. I don't doubt that children with abusive and unfaithful fathers may encounter difficulties in a co-parenting situation, but the fathers in this example have already proven through their actions that they put their own needs ahead of the families. So, in the best case only one third of the co-parenting scenarios have a chance at being successful but there is a strong argument that the children are better off than in an unhappy household and undeniable they are better off out of an abusive one.

Two minor quibbles, women don't always get half of anything and that assumes there is something to get and divorce is creature of state law so your grandmother's experience in that timeframe was the exception and not the norm. Equal partnership and Equality IS a grand thing indeed. Unfortunately, some men have a problem with that. If a participant in the marriage chooses to be subservient or subordinate for whatever reason, that's a choice. It should not be the only choice.
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Old 05-13-2023 | 08:24 AM
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This is apparently the tiny penis thread.
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Old 05-13-2023 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by oncewasgood
This thread is an absolute debacle. What an embarrassment to the industry. We literally have a thread regarding who is right or wrong in divorce and how to best do it. If this isn’t a glaring example of the disaster on APC I don’t know whatever it is. Management has to be laughing and pointing to this as the reason why we are looked at like idiots.
I seriously doubt they give a sh!t
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