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Old 04-10-2018, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by KnightFlyer View Post
You can put in $18500 max to your 401k (or Roth 401k). If 50+ can do another $6000.

If you want to do additional after-tax, they caution us to limit it to 5% so you don't hit the limits preventing max B fund contributions from the company.
Thanks, KF. I had no idea. Thought it was limited to $18,500. I just thought after-tax and Roth were one in the same.
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Old 04-10-2018, 11:31 AM
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The union just put out a really good explanation of this from the R&I committee.

If you work for FedEx, and have not read it, it is worth reading.

I agree, we should have had cash over cap in this last contract.
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The union just put out a really good explanation of this from the R&I committee.

If you work for FedEx, and have not read it, it is worth reading.

I agree, we should have had cash over cap in this last contract.
Thanks for pointing me in that direction. Provided the clarity I was looking for. Great info.
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Originally Posted by gatorhater View Post
I believe ‘cash over cap’ commonly refers to the calculation when leaving out the sick buyback.

I’m your example all the cash you receive comes from your sick buyback.

What we want is cash for the 8% over 55k if we set our contribution too high.
What I want is cash over the cap because the company contribution puts us over the cap without having to invest our own money. For example a 16%-18% B-fund would put many in that situation.

And I agree the money you're getting back is because of the excess sick bank. However, if you're the healthy type it is a nice benefit.

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This exactly part of the problem we currently have. We DO NOT HAVE cash over cap. Many here have no idea how our retirement numbers work.

That is a sick hank payout and all you post describe is where it can go. I will never receive this payout and I will get zero dollars at retirement from the .50 payout on the dollar.
Yes I know which is why I said "sort of". I posted this because so many of our members don't know about this provision in the contract.

Not throwing any stones but next time I hope we all vote NO. Contract 2015 was a huge failure in many areas. We need to be united. We need the younger folks we are currently hiring to understand how bad we took it and hopefully next time around we can tell the company NO.

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What I want is cash over the cap because the company contribution puts us over the cap without having to invest our own money. For example a 16%-18% B-fund would put many in that situation.
No, the company contribution doesn't put us over the cap! Even with an 18% B-Fund, the most the company will contribute is $50,000. The rest of the money is your money. I would rather have the company contribute the full $55,000 ($61,000 is you are 50 or older) and not contribute anything out of my pocket.

The cap that we need to worry about is the earnings cap, not the contribution cap.
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The B-fund is capped in a way... by the 401(a)(17) — Qualified Plan Compensation Limit. The company can only make contributions up to this limit of income for 2017 it was $270,000. So 8% of that was $21,600, that is the max anyone made in B fund contributions, even if their income was $500,000...
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Cash over Cap refers to the 401(a)17 limit...not the total DC limit.

Right now the top earners at FedEx Don’t have an 8% B plan and won’t have a 9% B plan because it’s capped. Company contributions probably stop Aug-Oct timeframe for those folks
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Originally Posted by kronan View Post
Cash over Cap refers to the 401(a)17 limit...not the total DC limit.

Right now the top earners at FedEx Don’t have an 8% B plan and won’t have a 9% B plan because it’s capped. Company contributions probably stop Aug-Oct timeframe for those folks
Yes - they will have a 9% B plan

They will earn 9% on their pay up to the limit vs only 8% on their pay up to the limit
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Delta’s MEC, in conjunction with ALPA National, produced an excellent video 2 years back, good discussion on retirement begins approx 11 minutes in

https://youtu.be/21TSEX8Xh2o
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Retirement Video

Or straight to the video

https://www.alpa.org/dal/~/media/DAL...vings-Plan.mp4
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