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08-01-2019, 12:49 PM

HIFLYR

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Heads up to deviators

Hey the email we received from Flt Mgt regarding United and some others canceling tickets that are on the same day is correct. United just canceled my ticket home because I had not deviated yet in the system. I was still 5 days out from the day of the trips. No notification or anything also. I just went to get the info to pass on to the F/O and the ticket was gone and it now cost 125.00 more.
Just a heads up.

08-01-2019, 04:35 PM

FXLAX

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Thanks for the heads up. But what is the advantage of deviating and keeping the original DH?

08-01-2019, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by FXLAX

Thanks for the heads up. But what is the advantage of deviating and keeping the original DH?

I think maybe you mean not officially deviating, booking your soon to be deviation ticket, and keeping the scheduled all at the same time? The advantage to this is for any revisions or if you block in late for whatever reason that puts you under the required rest.

I.e. Scheduled layover in LAX is 803, you're 4 minutes late...they have to rebuild the backend DH. Or, you're in CDG on an Int'l trip, and they revise your backend DH more than 60 hours out. I always wait until the last minute to deviate the back end.

I'm sure someone will be along to say they are required to rebuild the paring regardless if you've deviated or not. Well..they're required to do a lot of things...

08-01-2019, 05:23 PM

BlueMoon

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So these tickets aren’t fully refundable if there is a cancellation fee

08-01-2019, 06:02 PM

DirtyPurple

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As if I needed another reason to avoid United at all costs. Thanks for continuing to validate my bias.

08-02-2019, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Rum Runner

Here I am! They are required to rebuild the pairing so it's legal on paper. And I've found that they are actually pretty good at it (my experience only). If I'm close to a legal rest before a BEDH, I make sure I check the pairing to ensure it reflects the actual block in time and if it doesn't, I call and have them fix it. But every time it's happened, when I opened ViPS to check, I had a Crew Notification showing a trip revision with the new DH. And associated extra CH.

08-02-2019, 01:11 AM

Sluggo_63

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Originally Posted by Rum Runner

I always wait until the last minute to deviate the back end.

Just make sure you are complying with the timelines in 8.C.1.h.i. and ii. (Sixty hours international and 8 hours domestic). There have been Irregularity Reports filed on those who haven't followed those timelines.