Heads up to deviators
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Hey the email we received from Flt Mgt regarding United and some others canceling tickets that are on the same day is correct. United just canceled my ticket home because I had not deviated yet in the system. I was still 5 days out from the day of the trips. No notification or anything also. I just went to get the info to pass on to the F/O and the ticket was gone and it now cost 125.00 more.
Just a heads up.
Just a heads up.
Can you elaborate on the scenario specifics?
Did your deviation ticket and the scheduled ticket have any flights in common? Or were the tickets completely different from each other and just leaving from the same city on the same day?
One thing folks may consider if they are 100% certain they will never use the scheduled DH ticket: Once they have the deviation ticket they want, call global travel and cancel the scheduled ticket. This still allows them to delay officially deviating in VIPS until closer to the deviation deadline. If they do this, a trip and deadhead revision would be required in the event of disruptions prior to official deviation. It just removes the potential for ticket cancellation by the airline while still retaining control over when one deviates.
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HI,
Can you elaborate on the scenario specifics?
Did your deviation ticket and the scheduled ticket have any flights in common? Or were the tickets completely different from each other and just leaving from the same city on the same day?
One thing folks may consider if they are 100% certain they will never use the scheduled DH ticket: Once they have the deviation ticket they want, call global travel and cancel the scheduled ticket. This still allows them to delay officially deviating in VIPS until closer to the deviation deadline. If they do this, a trip and deadhead revision would be required in the event of disruptions prior to official deviation. It just removes the potential for ticket cancellation by the airline while still retaining control over when one deviates.
Can you elaborate on the scenario specifics?
Did your deviation ticket and the scheduled ticket have any flights in common? Or were the tickets completely different from each other and just leaving from the same city on the same day?
One thing folks may consider if they are 100% certain they will never use the scheduled DH ticket: Once they have the deviation ticket they want, call global travel and cancel the scheduled ticket. This still allows them to delay officially deviating in VIPS until closer to the deviation deadline. If they do this, a trip and deadhead revision would be required in the event of disruptions prior to official deviation. It just removes the potential for ticket cancellation by the airline while still retaining control over when one deviates.
When the bid was closed and lines assigned I scheduled all my deviation tickets with FedEx Corp travel and all were under bank. I had not deviated at this point as I was not sure if I wanted to trade any trips, or WX issues and I had to get my daughter to college etc.
The deviation tickets were on the same airline that the pairing tickets were ultimately purchased on in this case United.
I have a IOE student so I was emailing him my intentions to deviate and going to give him my flight info and discovered the ticket was gone about 5 days prior to the day of travel. I was going to deviate that day also but had not officially deviated at this point.
I called corp travel and the person was nice and explained that most of the carriers are moving to do what United did and United is currently the worst. She told me that if you schedule multiple tickets on the same airline on the same day or even in some cases the day before or after. The airline will look at them and decide for you that you cannot use both and they cancel one or both of the tickets. You will receive no notification the ticket just disappears. In my case the ticket price was now 125 more on the same flight.
She said that using a different airline will currently keep this from happening or try not using your frequent flier number "she was not sure if this would work" In my case I had no idea who the company was going use out of Memphis.
Yes your idea of calling to cancel the scheduled ticket is good but in my case it's a easy 50 min commute 2x a day to get to MEM to take the scheduled and I had never encountered this before. I see this as Bull Shi! not just for us but business travelers who might have multiple tickets in case meetings go long or plans change.
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The bid pack and pairing publish the flight with flight number and airline. How did you not know what the scheduled flight was? If you knew the bank, there had to be a flight associated with the pairing.
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Well I just learned something I had no idea. I just look at the accepted fare dollar number. Really would not have mattered as in my limited time as a commuter 1 1/2 years I have never had this happen.
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