Tony C is Running for Block 3
02-13-2019 | 12:29 AM
#71
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In Greek tragedy, a deus ex machina was introduced to solve an apparently unsolvable problem. Ironically, this APC clown seems driven to do just the opposite, wandering around from one forum to another trying to stir up trouble and create problems. I guess his home litter box is too full, so he feels the need to go elsewhere to relieve himself.
Ah, Yes, the Block 3 Representative ...
109 valid votes were counted, a rather impressive turnout for an off-cycle election with such short notice.
Roy Akana - 59
Tony Cutler - 39
Dave Arrington - 11
Roy and Tony advance to the Election phase which will be conducted electronically (telephone and web-based). Details for voting should be published soon, and a March 8 certification date (vote closed) is anticipated.
Thank you to all who voted!
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Ah, Yes, the Block 3 Representative ...
109 valid votes were counted, a rather impressive turnout for an off-cycle election with such short notice.
Roy Akana - 59
Tony Cutler - 39
Dave Arrington - 11
Roy and Tony advance to the Election phase which will be conducted electronically (telephone and web-based). Details for voting should be published soon, and a March 8 certification date (vote closed) is anticipated.
Thank you to all who voted!
.
02-13-2019 | 06:24 AM
#72
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Really? When can we block over 8 in a duty period without an RFO right now?
As to the rest...Hopefully no one is saying 117 over anything. My point is very little of what I see in 117 is going to be better than what we have right now.
But if enough people b!tch about the cargo cut-out and it eventually goes away and we're under 117 - now we have to be able to justify what's in our contract and use negotiating capital to do so.
If this supposedly "science based" regulation that ALPA has been championing since it's inception now becomes gospel in the cargo world, how are we going to be able to sit on the other side of the negotiating table and say, "Yeah...we still need an RFO at 7:36 block even though the rest of the industry is going 9:00 with two pilots".
"Oh, while we're at it, let's stick with 4-pilots over 12 hours of block even though industry standard is now 13 hours".
Because most cargo companies don't have the contract we have and would have to jump through a lot more hoops to make their contract line-up with 117. For FedEx specifically, the minor benefits the company might gain by chopping an RFO here and there are probably offset by the ass pain of putting pilots in hotels or sleep rooms for 2 hours or whatever other noise level adjustments to duty or rest might be necessary.
My point is that anyone at FedEx complaining about the "cargo cut-out" probably hasn't taken the time to look into what they're complaining about.
As to the rest...Hopefully no one is saying 117 over anything. My point is very little of what I see in 117 is going to be better than what we have right now.
But if enough people b!tch about the cargo cut-out and it eventually goes away and we're under 117 - now we have to be able to justify what's in our contract and use negotiating capital to do so.
If this supposedly "science based" regulation that ALPA has been championing since it's inception now becomes gospel in the cargo world, how are we going to be able to sit on the other side of the negotiating table and say, "Yeah...we still need an RFO at 7:36 block even though the rest of the industry is going 9:00 with two pilots".
"Oh, while we're at it, let's stick with 4-pilots over 12 hours of block even though industry standard is now 13 hours".
Because most cargo companies don't have the contract we have and would have to jump through a lot more hoops to make their contract line-up with 117. For FedEx specifically, the minor benefits the company might gain by chopping an RFO here and there are probably offset by the ass pain of putting pilots in hotels or sleep rooms for 2 hours or whatever other noise level adjustments to duty or rest might be necessary.
My point is that anyone at FedEx complaining about the "cargo cut-out" probably hasn't taken the time to look into what they're complaining about.
-UA
02-13-2019 | 07:01 AM
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In Greek tragedy, a deus ex machina was introduced to solve an apparently unsolvable problem. Ironically, this APC clown seems driven to do just the opposite, wandering around from one forum to another trying to stir up trouble and create problems. I guess his home litter box is too full, so he feels the need to go elsewhere to relieve himself.
Ah, Yes, the Block 3 Representative ...
109 valid votes were counted, a rather impressive turnout for an off-cycle election with such short notice.
Roy Akana - 59
Tony Cutler - 39
Dave Arrington - 11
Roy and Tony advance to the Election phase which will be conducted electronically (telephone and web-based). Details for voting should be published soon, and a March 8 certification date (vote closed) is anticipated.
Thank you to all who voted!
.
Ah, Yes, the Block 3 Representative ...
109 valid votes were counted, a rather impressive turnout for an off-cycle election with such short notice.
Roy Akana - 59
Tony Cutler - 39
Dave Arrington - 11
Roy and Tony advance to the Election phase which will be conducted electronically (telephone and web-based). Details for voting should be published soon, and a March 8 certification date (vote closed) is anticipated.
Thank you to all who voted!
.
02-13-2019 | 08:51 AM
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02-13-2019 | 02:02 PM
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Good luck Tony. a non ALPA slug wishing you success.
02-13-2019 | 04:57 PM
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Gee, I seem to remember Tony being my block rep some years back. Go back to whatever hole you slithered out of!
02-15-2019 | 04:45 AM
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you guys should be embarrassed at your pilot groups participation rate in ALPA-PAC... but you're not... yet your leadership demands "ALPA" carry your water... talk about an entitlement program mentality!
Start asking questions...
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