You need to look at the manning as well.

More pilots in the seat = more VTO+RSV lines.
Previous system all of the Extra capacity was built into the Bidpack with "known" R days and Extra Reserve Lines. Again, 100% of the Known R days were built into the Bidpack...and, again, 100% of the Unknown R days weren't.

Now the Extra wind up as VTO lines. Still sitting Reserve, but you just don't know when until the VTO lines are published.


Under the previous system, virtually 100% of the Known RSV and RB days that were conflicted turned into RA. Much more beneficial to the Company and CRS could place them wherever they wanted. So, in a sense, virtually every Reserve day in the Previous system was an unknown R day.

Now, we've tied CRS hands to using the Known R day blocks to create VTO lines.
And it's definitely having an adverse impact on people with Carryover who want to fly as much straight time as they are Contractually permitted to do. And it's having an adverse impact on the smaller bases especially when People avoid using their Vacation hours and Max out their Contractually permitted CIA hours. Which leaves fewer trips, and yes, even R days for those towards the bottom of the VTO pool.

On Several occasions, Pilots have added up all of the Published R days and All of the R days assigned to VTO lines. And it's added up.

The SIG sees all of the numbers.
Feel free to email your particular SIG folks and ask them to provide you with the breakdown.

Let's look at numbers, over time. Memphis A300. (Easier to compare with no RFO Capt\FO's to throw into the Mix.)

May SIG notes
2019 BLG 88:30/92:30. Equivalent flying, so if my wacky theory is correct...should be fewer flying lines for FOs and more flying lines for Captains.

And, the Flying\VTO\Reserve breakdown goes
202/60/33 for a total of 295 Capt Seat
190/52/28 for a total of 270 FO Seat.

Lower BLG target = more flying lines
More bodies = More VTO and Reserve Lines

2015 (old school rules)
BLG 94/94
195/68/66 for 329 Capt lines
195/57/59 for 311 FO lines.
More bodies = More VTO and Reserve lines

2014
BLG 67:13/ 65:23
236/68/65 for 369 Capt Lines
245/52/81 for 378 FO lines.

Lower BLG = more flying lines
More bodies = More VTO and Reserve lines.

Can’t wait to see what block of R days I am able to pick up tonight!

Contract 2023 by the time it’s ratified.

On a related topic......
Delta is looking at negotiating contract 2019. ‘Member when they turned down the first version, improved it and ratified shortly after us. Yeah, so this will be the second contract they’ll produce while we still labor under CBA 2015. Only 2.5 years to go :rolleyes:

oh, and they’re actually discussing ratification PRIOR to the amendable date (which they’ve achieved in the past). What a concept.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/china-launches-investigation-fedex-xinhua-110317908.html

Do we still have 4.a.2.b. ? Not sure why we are still hiring like gang busters

I'd be surprised if that was the case in EUR. I've looked at the leveling several days to see only 1 each of A,B.and 24 when bidpack showed 2 of each.

Delta's MEC wanted to modify profit sharing for increased pay rates.

WSJ (masked) says it went 65-35 rejecting a 3 year deal with "big pay raises"

Don't recall how the raises compared between their two TAs, but do know the one that was voted in has longevity raises with 3% in 2017, 3% in 2018, and 4% in 2019.

How does that compare with our pay raises again?


Opening the Contract prior to our amendable date would be a no brainer...would it be the Union that does that or the Company?

Does it take two to tango?

AA's CEO has stated should be easy to achieve a Contract within a year, hope he's right. Hope same holds true for Delta.
Bigger the disparity between our pay and our pax brethren can only be beneficial for us, unless of course there's no impact on Pilot applications.

Delta’s 2016 CBA had a DOS raise of 18%.

What were the raises for their rejected TA?